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A question... 
12th-Aug-2011 08:42 pm
Thinky thougts
for my thinky flisters.

A while ago bythedamned and I posted figures and meta on deaths of males and females on Supernatural. It generated some healthy discussion and some interesting questions.

One thing that came up a few times, was that how many men or women died isn't as important as HOW they died.

The question is: What is critical or important about the way the characters die? My assumption is that male characters die differently to female characters and therefore there's an imbalance, or maybe there's bias toward one sex over the other (?). My further assumption is that women's deaths are more sexualised then men (deduced by the various comments made). IF this is true what is considered a "sexualised" death? What they are wearing when they die? Their position when they die? Who kills them? Does penetration with a knife symbolise sexual penetration? etc.

Deep I know (and damned heavy! sorry about that..), but I am genuinely curious. Maybe there's meta out there already on this? If not.... ;)

(if anyone looked at the past dozen posts of mine they'd swear I was ADD or something.../o\)
13th-Aug-2011 01:53 pm (UTC)
Yes. I have to say I've never considered Mary's death as sexualised either. Womanly or motherly maybe but not sexual. Though some do and it's these varying interpretations that will keep me (and bythedamned away from writing meta on this.

We are, however, contemplating gathering the "method of death" data. We are in the throes of deciding what info will be relevant and not tooooo time consuming to collect.

It will be rather cold data - as in facts only - but maybe anyone searching for these facts might find it useful if they then wanted to right meta on it.

Dicey topic because there are various interpretations about what consists of a sexualised death. And it's not just about the dying it would seem. Threatened death or danger would have to be looked at also. There are a number of potentially sexualised scenes (ruby and meg torture for example) that don't end in death. (and -damnit! - Sam was always fully clothed for his tortured scenes...)

This has been very helpful. Thank you. :)

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