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A question... 
12th-Aug-2011 08:42 pm
Thinky thougts
for my thinky flisters.

A while ago bythedamned and I posted figures and meta on deaths of males and females on Supernatural. It generated some healthy discussion and some interesting questions.

One thing that came up a few times, was that how many men or women died isn't as important as HOW they died.

The question is: What is critical or important about the way the characters die? My assumption is that male characters die differently to female characters and therefore there's an imbalance, or maybe there's bias toward one sex over the other (?). My further assumption is that women's deaths are more sexualised then men (deduced by the various comments made). IF this is true what is considered a "sexualised" death? What they are wearing when they die? Their position when they die? Who kills them? Does penetration with a knife symbolise sexual penetration? etc.

Deep I know (and damned heavy! sorry about that..), but I am genuinely curious. Maybe there's meta out there already on this? If not.... ;)

(if anyone looked at the past dozen posts of mine they'd swear I was ADD or something.../o\)
14th-Aug-2011 08:33 pm (UTC)
If I thought Supernatural were misogynist, I would not be watching it. I've dropped many other shows for reasons of sexism. To the contrary, I think spn is gutsy with the tropes and challenges it takes on in terms of gender across the board.

That's one reason why I was so excited to be able to open the discussion with a gender neutral approach to sexualized deaths. The Women in White aspect is really important to acknowledge, but it's by no means the whole story.

14th-Aug-2011 09:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Sure, SPN has female victims. But it also has kick-ass female side characters and female baddies, and in the end, I think, it evens out.

No, it isn't. It's natural that it's being pushed to the forefront often, seeing as it is where the whole story STARTS, but there's so much more to it.
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