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25th-Feb-2012 04:42 pm
That's Just not right
I don't know why this still shocks me but it does.

This person (LezraGR) has not only posted a couple of my vids but has also put their own watermark on it. They have also blocked me (and probably others) from commenting so I can't even protest it. What the...? There's a heap of other vids there, which I'm sure are stolen also.

My two (I Go to Work and When You're Smiling) were posted over a year ago but there are some recent SPN ones that I'd place bets aren't his (edit...looks like the poster is a teenage boy (?)).

*head shake* It puzzles me what these people get out of doing this. I guess when you make something public like that anyone can grab it. But it's the same as stealing someone's story.

Anyway. Not much can be done I suppose, especially if he's blocked comments. What a loser.

ETA: ARGHHH!! I just found this also. My Woo Hoo vid The thing is... he has a facebook link. I don't have Facebook. But if anyone is able to contact him there it might be worth telling him stealing is not on.

(Missing SPN! These mini breaks suck!)
25th-Feb-2012 09:33 am (UTC)
For what it's worth , hon. I just added this comment to the vid on YT.

This video is NOT yours. You did not make it, and yet you have the gall to post it with your own watermark added?? And I see it's not the only one. This was made by the talented vidder ash48, as were several others you 'claim'. You should acknowledge that, and you definitely should not have added your own watermark to them.

25th-Feb-2012 10:36 am (UTC)
*hugs* thank you honey.

It's remarkable isn't it?!

I've been meaning to watermark my own vids, which I think this will make me do from now on.

25th-Feb-2012 09:38 am (UTC)
Oh man, this isn't right at all - I'm really sorry that someone has done this to you.
25th-Feb-2012 10:37 am (UTC)
It really isn't. I just don't know what these people get out of doing this.
25th-Feb-2012 10:00 am (UTC)
Blasted little cheat! Even watermarking it!

Yeah, it's blocked comments on some of the vids, so it knows what it's doing is wrong and not a mistake, but I managed to get one through on the Whoo Hoo one, I expect it will remove those comments soon too. Sorry, hon, don't have Facebook, although the bloody cheek of it using your work to get people to visit it's Facebook page is almost enough for me to open one and rip it a new one. **ugh** There is nocliptheft - not sure if they're still active. On YouTube there used to be the Wall of Shame channel that would help people get stolen vids taken down, always worth a try.

Oh and I just wanted to add - apart from the comment I also "disliked" the vid on it's channel - now I LOVE your vid, it's not about the vid, I mainly wanted to leave a red mark for when it takes down the "upsetting" comments it's getting...

Edited at 2012-02-25 10:36 am (UTC)
25th-Feb-2012 10:41 am (UTC)
I just can't get over the watermark! It's so rude. (I really need to start watermarking my vids I think...)

Oh yes... I saw that Wall of Shame channel once. I'll see if I can find it.

I also tried to "dislike" it. I think it allowed me to do that. Just not comment. Purposefully being blocked makes it obvious that they know what they are doing is wrong.


And thanks for the v-gift!! (I love those dragons!) *HUGS*
25th-Feb-2012 10:12 am (UTC)
That's horrid! Is there some way you can report them through youtube itself? That site is so heavily obsessed with official copyright perhaps they might do something about individual plagarism?
25th-Feb-2012 10:44 am (UTC)
It is.

Hmmm... reporting is tricky because essentially the material doesn't belong to me either. Just the editing. I'm not really sure where vidders stand on that.

I think it can be flagged as spam or something though - I'll check it out.
25th-Feb-2012 12:15 pm (UTC)
Thank you hun.

It's very annoying and it really just makes no sense. I'm not sure what kind of personal satisfaction they could get.

He's been left some messages so at least he should get the message. (I think it also shows that SPN fans look out for each other and ripping of vids will get noticed).
25th-Feb-2012 10:37 am (UTC)
I just commented on her post. Don't know how much it helps, but at least a few people called her out.
25th-Feb-2012 01:38 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much. <33 Hopefully he'll (I've recently learned it's a he..) will learn that SPN fans have each others' backs and will stop taking other peoples work.

25th-Feb-2012 10:38 am (UTC)
Ugh. It's so pathetic that people do this. I'm sorry that you've been left with no avenue of recourse, hun.

Perhaps it's worth adding your own watermark from here on in.
25th-Feb-2012 01:43 pm (UTC)
I know. I just scratch my head over this stuff because surely they can't get any satisfaction from receiving either comments or subs from posting other peoples vids.

I have considered watermarking my vids. I'd want it to be unobtrusive though. Maybe a tiny one...

25th-Feb-2012 10:58 am (UTC)
I've commented on her YoutTube theft too. I disliked the video for that reason because it's awesome and it's YOURS.
25th-Feb-2012 01:45 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much honey. From the comments on there now I think this person will definitely get the message that we look out for out own.

25th-Feb-2012 11:45 am (UTC)
I had a look at the FB page with the vids, and the personal page linked from it. If the picture is of them, it looks like a teenage boy from Greece. I can't see any way for a non-friend to post a comment there. I don't have a YT account, but see that a number of people have commented in protest!

I completely understand why vidders would want to use watermarks, but as a viewer, I avoid watermarked vids (and grumble internally about the CW logo on the show !). I find having a logo on the screen detracts a lot from the viewing experience.

25th-Feb-2012 11:47 am (UTC)
BTW, his FB profile says he's a "creative director" at YouTube!
25th-Feb-2012 11:55 am (UTC)
Hmm, it's a tricky one, because you can't really inform Youtube about it as you yourself are infringing copyright by using clips from the show.

Hopefully they will take down the vids now they have been found out and called on it.

*Edit* I've left a comment on Woo Hoo, but other vids comments are being screened.

Edited at 2012-02-25 12:16 pm (UTC)
25th-Feb-2012 03:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah... it's always tricky. As vidders we claim "transformative works" under copyright so there is a legit way we can post vids. But it still doesn't mean we can claim someone as stolen something from us. And with so few view counts I'm sure YT wouldn't even care.

It's curious about the comment blocking. I think he's probably had a few negative comments in the past and started to block vids. Woo Hoo seems to have slipped through. - for the moment anyway.

And thanks honey. If for nothing else he'll realise that stealing SPN vids will mean that he'll be found out.

25th-Feb-2012 11:58 am (UTC)
I've left comments (that are being screened) and reported both vids. Hopefully, with all of us working, this will be addressed. Sorry, hon. This kind of thing makes me nuts.

25th-Feb-2012 03:17 pm (UTC)
Wow.. thanks honey.

And yes... SPN fans are a force to be reckoned with. If he's truly a SPN fan he'd know that doing this just isn't on.

And THANK YOU for my v-gift! Those dragons are so cute! <33333 *hugs*

25th-Feb-2012 01:27 pm (UTC)
I left comments on the Woo Hoo one and commented to anyone who gave the vid praise and set them straight on who deserves that praise. You can still mark it as spam I believe, that would get the video taken down or report the user themselves.
25th-Feb-2012 03:40 pm (UTC)
Thank you hun. Those comments are wonderful. <3

I'll take a look at those spam options. He's certainly been stupid posting other people's vids as his own.


(love the icon. I always fall the for shaggy haired brother)
25th-Feb-2012 01:39 pm (UTC)
Left some comments, but the uploader appears to be blocking/screening comments on all of them now. There's nowhere for me to flag it, either, because the categories don't include plagiarism, alas.

Shame on them. >:(
25th-Feb-2012 03:44 pm (UTC)
Thank you sweetie. <3 Yeah... it looks like he's blocked a lot of the vids for comment. He obviously knows what he's doing isn't right. And the flagging is a problem. I also looked at the options and nothing really fits. I'm surprised that they don't have a "but that's my vid" option considering how many vids must be posted that belong to other people. I suppose it's just too hard to police.

25th-Feb-2012 02:33 pm (UTC)
That is so ridiculous that this person would do this!! I hate when people steal vids, I don't get why they would do that, I really don't.
26th-Feb-2012 01:18 am (UTC)
I don't either. I saw where someone had commented that they liked the vid and he said "thank you". I mean... how can you get satisfaction out of that. Knowing it's not your work they are commenting on.


25th-Feb-2012 02:47 pm (UTC)
I'm so sorry that happened. What a jerk! I had something similar happen to a few of my gen fics, so I know exactly how you feel.

You should watermark your vids too. Is there any other way to protect them? The clips might be from SPN, but the way they're combined is original and unique to you and tells a story too.

Okay, went and left a few not so complimentary comments.

Edited at 2012-02-25 02:58 pm (UTC)
26th-Feb-2012 01:20 am (UTC)
A jerk indeed!

And thanks hun.

I've been thinking about watermarking. I'm in two minds because I don't want something intrusive. I'll have to play with something.

And thanks! I think he will have got the message that stealing ain't on.

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