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S8 Recs!! 
17th-Oct-2012 09:20 pm
Sam and Dean peering
RUN! Do not walk! zimshan has written the most thorough and brilliant meta on S8 Sam and Dean. It's mostly about Sam but anything about Sam has to include Dean. Snippet because...THIS!:

For much of fandom, one of those questions is, 'What happened to Sam to make him not look for Dean?'

Here is where I'm going to go out on a limb and say, I don't need an answer for this. There might very well be one. Maybe he was under the influence of the angels or Crowley who had an interest in keeping Dean down in purg all year long. Maybe he really DID do something and he's playing it cool and hiding it from Dean. I look forward to the unraveling of Sam's flashback stories as the season progresses. But I don't feel like I need some big REASON. A "human story", as Carver has called it, will work just fine. Because a "human story" for this just makes so much sense.


I have been holding off my thoughts on what might be going on with Sam this season because we just haven't been given enough information yet. I have desperately wanted something to be up - something major to have influenced Sam's decision, but after reading this the something is no longer a "must have" for me. Mainly because it's already in plain sight.

I love it. I would love to think Show has been this thoughtful about the boys character arcs this season. After the first two episodes I have a feeling they just might have. (YAY!)

While I am here I've been meaning to rec a wonderful story written by cherie_morte - Minotaurs Inside a Maze. It was posted before 8.01 aired but I didn't read it until after I saw that episode. What I love about it is how much it has STUCK WITH ME ever since I read it. It is such a refreshing, interesting and clever idea and it works on so many levels. It is also possibly responsible for my skewed look at the nature of monsters and purgatory now (which is good!). Go read!

And if you like looking at all the little details in an episode (like me!) check out galwithglasses 8.02 picspam. I had no idea there was so much (well placed) red in that ep!

I'm really looking forward to the next ep. Jensen directing excites me and I am reeaally keen to see how they are going to be moving everything forward. I'm thinking this one has to be a good indicator.
Comments 
17th-Oct-2012 02:33 pm (UTC)
I have bookmarked her meta post - the snippet you showed here sounds intriguing, and I'm champing at the bit to read wonderfully thought out analysis of season 8. Thank you for pointing it out, and for all the other bits and pieces here. You're a star darlin'!
17th-Oct-2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
Oh yes - if you get a chance it's a great read. She looks at everything in Sam's past (and Dean's) to make sense of what is happening now. And it does makes sense. (Hee...I might find myself going back to read it if Show messes this up...)

xx
17th-Oct-2012 03:00 pm (UTC)
That meta of Zimshan's is so great. It gets into words so much of what I've been thinking but couldn't articulate. And yay, I couldn't remember if this was Jensen's ep or the next one. Tomorrow is soooo far away. Thanks for the rec...
17th-Oct-2012 10:59 pm (UTC)
Isn't it though? I kept nodding and thinking...yes, yes...that!

I remember that this was the first episode filmed and Jensen did it. I was thinking yesterday that Jared and Jensen at least knew where their characters were at by episode three. I am hoping it explains a little more about their characterisations in episodes 1 & 2. :)
17th-Oct-2012 05:50 pm (UTC)
Awww, ash!! Thanks so much for the glowing rec!! I totally almost called on you for crisis mode at one point this weekend when things were being difficult. I'm soooo glad it works like that for you though, cause that was really the big thing for me too. I assume we'll see tonight how the flashbacks track with whatever spec is there. People are right to be skeptical but for me, with that meta, it kinda straightens my head to be cool with whatever. I guess that might kinda seem like letting writers off the hook, but really it's just about being able to accept the set up. It's there for them to use. Whether they choose to use it or not, I still reserved right to judge and call them on. They might have something better, they might ignore it entirely. Setups are only half. Like I loveeed last year's setup. The execution however was a complete failboat.

Thanks for reccing cherie's fic too! I'd heard good things about it when it was first posted and then I lost track of it. Bookmarking now! And color picspam!! YAY!!!
17th-Oct-2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
I totally almost called on you for crisis mode at one point this weekend when things were being difficult.

omg, my brain isn't nearly as big as yours. I am sure I wouldn't have been any help other than HAND HOLDING! I could have done that for sure! :))

Like I loveeed last year's setup. The execution however was a complete failboat.

I think that's why I get so nervous for my little show. They can get it so right and then so very wrong. I think if they are at least thinking along the lines that you are then they are on some sort of track. They would probably need to spell it out for the audience because I know many wouldn't accept Sam not hunting because he was scared to make a choice (and for ALLL those other reasons you mentioned).

I have a feeling I might just be going back to read it whenever show gets me down.

And cherie's fic is soooooo interesting. A lovely twist on what a reader might expect but with lovely characterisations that make it all so believable.

xox
18th-Oct-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
Was it cassopeia that linked that reaction to SPN this summer that described the show as "such an infuriating show, because it's a very dumb show wrapped up in a very smart show" or something like that. I need to find that quote now. But it goes such a long way to why being an SPN fan is such an emotional rollercoaster ride, because they can be SO STUPID. And then SO SMART. It constantly invalidates them and revalidates them, it means lowering expectations and whiplash squee over and over again. We all must be friggin mad to still be around six years later! *g*
18th-Oct-2012 01:25 pm (UTC)
Hee! Yes. It's ALL that! Show is so hard and yet so easy to love.

xoxo
18th-Oct-2012 07:52 am (UTC)
I'm torn between understanding Dean's incredulity about Sam not looking for him and ignoring Kevin's plight, to completely supporting Sam and his desire to finally, *finally* maybe lead a normal life.

To me, Dean's insistence that he and Sam hunt forever is kind of selfish. We know they are co-dependent on each other, but Dean moreso than Sam. And I think that has always bothered Dean -- Sam was able to separate himself from Dean and John and not go crazy about it. We know Dean would never do that because his life -- and existence sometimes it feel like -- is focused solely on Sam.

I think Dean knows that he would be lost without Sam, but Sam wouldn't be lost without him. And I'm sure that's why he's really bothered by Sam's desire to settle down. His brother doesn't need him as much as he thinks. It must be a blow to Dean, considering what he gave up for Sam.

I love them both, but seeing Sam finally get what he's wanted all these years would be ideal, even if Dean feels hurt by it.
18th-Oct-2012 01:31 pm (UTC)
And I think that has always bothered Dean -- Sam was able to separate himself from Dean and John and not go crazy about it.

Oh yes. It's such a good point. Dean has as many issues as Sam does about this hunting life.

I love them both, but seeing Sam finally get what he's wanted all these years would be ideal, even if Dean feels hurt by it.

You know, I agree. Of course it won't happen because they both have to hunt but I am finally feeling like I totally understand Sam's need for a normal life. And I'd love him to have it. Both of them.

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