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THIS VID! omg... 
4th-Dec-2012 07:47 pm
This is a gorgeous Sam vid. It shows why his world "imploded". Why he might have had a meltdown after Dean disappeared. Why he ran. *guh*

by DemonicLullabyMV2

On one level I can totally accept Sam mentally snapping and choosing to live in a "dream" world. A world that was safe and free of potential mistakes, but on the other hand ...NOOOOOO! You can't just NOT look for your brother Sam!

Also, (while I'm here and this damn story line just WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE!! DAMN YOU!) I wonder if Dean not trying to get Cas out of Purgatory is somehow tied into Sam not looking for Dean. If Dean was so messed up by the thought of failing to get Cas out surely the first thing he would do when he got back was to go mad looking for a way to get him out.

Just curious. Lots of little breadcrumbs are being dropped I think.
4th-Dec-2012 12:06 pm (UTC)
Beautiful. I should've known that a vid recced by you would be awesome.

I wonder if Dean not trying to get Cas out of Purgatory is somehow tied into Sam not looking for Dean.

O_o Oh, wow. How did I miss that parallel? From your mouth to Carver's ears.
4th-Dec-2012 02:08 pm (UTC)
I seriously hope Dean not looking is going to be considered. I don't think it's fair that Dean calls Sam on not looking when he didn't. (or rather..it is fair because that's going to be a major point later on).

Vid breaks my heart just a wee bit...:(
4th-Dec-2012 01:20 pm (UTC)
That's a beautiful vid and yep, maybe it does explain why Sam didn't look, why he just ran and the vid makes me feel so much sympathy for Sam, what he's gone through. I don't think it will ever sit comfortably with me, I think I'll have to readjust some of my personal head canon about who I thought Sam was, I'm having to do that anyway this season.

However it does nothing to alleviate the anger I feel towards him over this whole Amelia thing. Now after her stupid statements about the dog, you probably already know I really don't like her, but JFC she doesn't deserve to be lied to, put in so much danger, how on earth is she supposed to deal with finding out the truth about the man she was hoping to set up home with or was he intending to lie to her for the rest of their lives together? How horrible is that?

**shakes head**. I, - words pretty much fail me after last week. If Sam's life with her was true, all above board, no memory twists, no heaven's green room fantasy, I just don't know how I can come to terms with it. Unless I find out Sam was putting down salt lines, has a devil's trap under the new rug, threw holy water in dad's face and she has an anti-possesion tattoo? Then no, I'm going to stay pissed at Sam no matter how sorry I feel for him, and I do want so much to feel for him, he deserves so much for saving the world, but deliberately putting this innocent "messed up" woman in the path of every fugly with Sam Winchester's name on their hit list? Every demon in hell and Crowley once Kevin escaped?

Nope, I'm hoping like shit for the Whammied!Sam to be revealed soon, because this selfish Soap!Sam is too infuriating to watch much longer. Like you I just wish the damned mystery would get cleared up one way or the other, I'm pretty sure the correlation between Dean not looking for Cas and Sam not looking for Dean will be made and the whole dangerous situation with Amelia will get shoved under the rug. I wish I could quit, I really do - hah, bet you do too! Sorry, ranting all over your journal, I really should just get over it eh?
4th-Dec-2012 02:05 pm (UTC)
Unless I find out Sam was putting down salt lines, has a devil's trap under the new rug, threw holy water in dad's face and she has an anti-possesion tattoo?

I KNOW! See ... this! This is why this is all so WEIRD! At least when Dean was with Lisa he acknowledged that monsters were out there. So far we haven't seen that from Sam. But then again we really haven't seen ANYTHING about this time with Amelia. It's as though NOTHING about Sam's past life has been brought into this. Now, I don't know whether to be excited by that (because that could feed into all his flashbacks being unreal) or worried because it looks like they haven't considered this. (seriously?)

Even the vid (I think) suggests that it's a mental thing.

I have to say I haven't even considered Amelia being in danger. That's an excellent point and...*guh*...a man like Sam would consider that. You're right. I just HAVE to somehow accept that Sam has removed himself completely from that world and just didn't want to see or acknowledge that that world even existed. (or his memories are being tampered with...or something).

I have to admit (different to you I'm thinking *g*) last weeks ep spoke to me about how screwed up Sam was. It was all so wrong so I don't see it as a soap opera life or story but rather a wish on Sam's part for it to be just that. I am hoping (!!!) that they are being clever here. IF it turns out that he's just been living this "normal" life with nothing else going on then yeah...I'M RIGHT WITH YOU! There just has to be more.... (please!)

Ultimately, with everything we know about Sam, I can't believe he wouldn't look. So yeah, I'm still hanging on to there being something more. (much the way I did in S6)

4th-Dec-2012 01:49 pm (UTC)
Beautiful video. The more I think about it, the more I wonder about Sam. Interesting parallel you have drawn. I believe Amelia is real, but I do have to wonder after all Sam has been through if his thoughts, perceptions, memories, etc are real. And while I don't want to spoil anyone, after accidentally seeing the sneak peek of 8 x 09 (I thought is was the promo) I really have to wonder [vague spoiler info behind a cut to be safe;nothing too specific]if they might actually deal with some of Sam's PTSD/mental health issues given a previous character who was mentioned in the sneak peek and is scheduled to guest in the episode.
4th-Dec-2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
I took a sneak peek also - but only pic so I know who's in it. I am both nervous and excited for the ep because it looks like a good story arc episode.

I definitely have a feeling that Sam's mind is still an issue this season (which...yay!)

4th-Dec-2012 04:55 pm (UTC)
I loved this vid! SAMMY ;_; He's been through so muchhhhhhh. It breaks my heart.
4th-Dec-2012 10:44 pm (UTC)
He's been through SO SO much! Oh man...the both have *hugs them*

4th-Dec-2012 07:32 pm (UTC)
LOVE this vid!!!! Thanks for sharing it!!

(still haven't watched this past week's episode and am still nail-bitingly nervous whether I should!)
4th-Dec-2012 10:46 pm (UTC)
It's awesome yeah?

Oh - still haven't watch it? Arghhh...ummm...I didn't mind it I have to say. Not great, but ok. The flashbacks were really hard to watch but so much more meatier than the past ones. I think it begins to show what had really happened to Sam.

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4th-Dec-2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
Hee...we are gluttons for punishment that's for sure. :)

The song is so perfect for Sam. :(
4th-Dec-2012 09:07 pm (UTC)
If Dean was so messed up by the thought of failing to get Cas out surely the first thing he would do when he got back was to go mad looking for a way to get him out.

I might be wrong, but I was under the impression that Dean thought Cas was dead.
4th-Dec-2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
Ahhh...yes... that could be so actually. I thought Dean's caginess around the mention of Cas in the beginning was his guilt at leaving him behind, but maybe he assumed he had died when he let him go. Or just died from being left in there.

I can go with that. Actually it would tie in nicely with Sam thinking that Dean was dead (maybe).


5th-Dec-2012 09:11 pm (UTC)
I'm hoping there's going to be something deeper going on with Sam and Amelia, otherwise it's just very badly written domestic scenes. Besides, didn't Amelia say she had no one, and then her father pops up? Is that meaningful or bad continuity? My money's on the latter.
7th-Dec-2012 06:01 am (UTC)
Yeah - probably just poor continuity. I'm sure they are trying to make her similar to Sam but...yeah. Different situation.

6th-Dec-2012 03:35 pm (UTC)
Hi ~!
You don't know me, I'm a total lurker...but I love your videos and all your meta analysis, etc. ....it's so awesome to read ♥

And sometimes I miss the support for Sam in this fandom, so your journal entries are always a joy to read ♥

Thanks for that and happy Christmas !
6th-Dec-2012 03:39 pm (UTC)
And I just saw that I repeated myself:

*a joy to dive in to
7th-Dec-2012 04:30 am (UTC)
This isn't a theory, more of a request as we go forward after Hellatus:

7th-Dec-2012 06:07 am (UTC)
Yeah. I can't say I wish her dead (they kill off too many characters) but I suppose I wish the relationship made some sort of real sense. I don't get the sense that they are in love at all. I suppose we have to assume that they are. But mostly, I just don't care. The love story can put put into another show.
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