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13th-Sep-2013 08:33 pm
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I have answers for each one of these so I'm gonna do it!. :D Snagged from cassiopeia7

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This will no doubt come as a BIG shock - Sam. (But I love Dean toooooo!)
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13th-Sep-2013 01:31 pm (UTC)
*points to icon*
13th-Sep-2013 01:34 pm (UTC)
*happy sigh* THAT boy!
13th-Sep-2013 01:36 pm (UTC)
Well, I for one am shocked. SHOCKED, I say! ;D
13th-Sep-2013 01:46 pm (UTC)
HA! I knew I should have prepared people more for that startling revelation...:))

(yay, perfect icon is perfect...)
13th-Sep-2013 02:23 pm (UTC)
Ok, LOVE this your icon.

Edited at 2013-09-13 02:23 pm (UTC)
13th-Sep-2013 02:22 pm (UTC)
Hmm.... Tempted. But 30 days is such a commitment in these hyperactive days. lol.

And WHUT? You are a Sam!girl. Shocker! ;P You already know I'm a bibro Dean!girl. But that Dean!girl lead shortens with each season and the bibro becomes stronger.
13th-Sep-2013 02:31 pm (UTC)
I normally wouldn't do something like this but short answers I can do!

haha...Sam!girl..I know - such a shock!. :D BUT I DO LOVE DEAN TOO! With ALL MY HEART!!<3
13th-Sep-2013 02:58 pm (UTC)
Yeah I made a notation to self that brevity may be the key here. But that in itself can be a challenge for me because talking about Show and brevity just don't mix well. ;P

And random observation. I know I'm "old school", but I find the list of suggested possibilities for #17 ... interesting.
13th-Sep-2013 03:16 pm (UTC)
So re Sam-Dean girl stuff. And disclaimer, THIS is NOT in any way meant to be anti-Sam. It was a conversation I had with my daughter that had me musing on how character wars start.


My daughter who has now attended parts of 2 cons with me and who has watched (years ago) most of S1, some of S2, and sporatic eps that I force on her. She loves Felicia Day and Kim Rhodes (after seeing her at Vancon 2012). After attending 2 cons she *wants* to watch all of the show, but somehow can't. So Emily commented to me several weeks ago after trying (again) to make it through S2 (! really? I still cannot get having *trouble* getting through S2, but whatever.) She came to me and asked sincerely, "Mom, why do people even like Sam?" I was all, "WHUT!!!???" Emily is of course completely outside of SPN fandom and her only knowledge is via me and what she's been exposed to during the con panels she's attended. When I questioned her more, she said she's basically neutral on both the characters (!!! again, WHUT?) but from what she could see, Sam was "selfish." Again I was a bit internally heartbroken that my own daughter could even be thinking this. Of course I went into all kinds of Sam backstory, explanations, etc. And she kinda got it. But it did get me realizing that these brother wars that can/do erupt are, sadly and unfortunately, so open to subjectivity that it kinda breaks me a bit. :(

And on a bit more of the internal heartbreak, my daughter saying that Dean is "meh, whatever" is like, WHUT (repeating myself yet again.) Don't judge her, she knows not what she says. (And I really do NOT want to even approach her comments regarding Cas. Talk about flame wars.) Contrarily she LOVES the cons and all the guests. She fell in love with Rob and Seb especially last time. She fell for Richard at her first con. She went to my solo J photo ops with me at her first con (and did go a tad bit gah-gah over both the boys for a short time), but passed it up when I offered at her 2nd con. She wanted to hang out around the vendor room hoping to talk again with Felicia. She "likes" the Js, but she doesn't quite get all the hype around them. But get her in the same room with Felicia and she fangirls like the best of us.

I probably shouldn't even be commenting regarding this because I don't want to turn a happy bi-bro-ish post into something other than that. NOT my intention. It's more me as always, fascinated by fandom sociology/culture.

Adding to this that if you want to delete this comment, I would totally support it. I kept cycling between hitting the back button versus post. I just am so fascinated by people's reactions/interpretations of characters, that I finally hit post.

Edited at 2013-09-13 03:22 pm (UTC)
14th-Sep-2013 01:41 am (UTC)
Firstly I would NEVER delete a thinky and interesting comment on my journal. (even if it wasn't those things I wouldn't delete a comment someone to time to write...;D).

This is fascinating to me also and it's something I ponder on myself. My daughter has no interest whatsoever in the show or the boys. Admittedly, she's only 16 and they probably look "too old" to her. She not into the same things I am anyway (she's a romcom watcher mostly). When she sees the boys she often says.."I don't know what you see in them"...sheeeessshh....

I think the way you look at a character is certainly personal. I did a post a while back about what makes each of us attracted to a certain type of character (well, it was about whether being a younger or older sibling swayed your attraction).

Sam's so called selfishness has been one of the main arguments against Sam in...well, forever. It's probably lucky I came into fandom after the first season because it would have broken my heart to read all that hate. Personally, I never saw the selfishness so I never felt that level of dislike others seemed to have. I saw a young man struggling to find his identity outside of his family - some read that as selfishness so I mostly just shrug at that.

Personally, I think both characters are selfish in their own ways. Dean can't seem to live without Sam (going so far as to bring him back from the dead which increased Sam's suffering tenfold) and Sam can't seem to accept the hunting life fully, which impacts on him not accepting Dean fully. But these qualities are essential to their characterisations. It's what makes them who they are and it's what creates the drama. If they were perfect, without flaws then they would be very uninteresting.

But no amount of arguing can persuade someone who dislikes Sam (or Dean for that matter - though that's rather rare I think...) to suddenly understand him and start to like him. I think for many it's just a gut reaction to the characters. If someone dislikes a character for some reason then they can always find evidence in the show that makes them "bad". In Sam's case it's a perceived selfishness. The show plays into that something (like Sam not looking for Dean)- which annoys me a bit because fans don't need any MORE reasons to dislike him.

Hee...I blabbed! You can see I love talking about this stuff too. As a um...bibro Sam girl it completely baffles me why Sam isn't liked by quite a lot of the fandom. I get that Dean is classically good looking and has all the appealing Han Solo type characteristics - but to me Sam is just as gorgeous and has characteristics that are just as endearing. But we are all different and that's all I can put it down to. (Some people find Cas attractive and see...I just can't see it. So I figure we all look at things differently...:D)

xx
13th-Sep-2013 02:56 pm (UTC)
Ok, decided to give it a go. Let's see if I can last 30 days in a row.
13th-Sep-2013 02:23 pm (UTC)
SAAAAAAAMMMMMM
13th-Sep-2013 02:32 pm (UTC)
*SQUISHES HIM IN A PADA SQUISHY WAY*
13th-Sep-2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
Yay for some Sammy loving. He's definitely my favourite too and hello there *waves*
14th-Sep-2013 01:47 am (UTC)
Oh hi! I saw you had friended me recently. I don't think we've chatted before..so hi!

And yay Sammy too eh? It's always nice to meet new sammy gals. :)
14th-Sep-2013 03:13 pm (UTC)
I'm a Sam guy actually ;)

And no I don't think we have :). I happened to notice you post about Sam on Galathea's page and thought I'd add you. While I have plenty of people on my friends list who love Dean and Castiel (I love all three *hides*) I needed more Sammy fans in my life ;)
13th-Sep-2013 03:20 pm (UTC)
May I ever so slightly point out that *whispers* I like Dean better?
So, does this mean we have to break up?
14th-Sep-2013 01:50 am (UTC)
NOOOO! No breaking up!! I wouldn't have any flisties if the Dean!girls broke up with me! ;(

And anyway - I'm mostly biBro because I adore Dean too. I just have a wee squishy soft spot for Sam.

xx
14th-Sep-2013 05:46 am (UTC)
OK, then. I'll stick around :)
Besides... I kinda like Sam too.
I just love the term BiBro :)
13th-Sep-2013 04:57 pm (UTC)
I like, frequently deeply love, and am occasionally exasperatedly pissed with...either and both of them. "Choosing" one means *not choosing* the other, and like vintage salt and pepper shaker sets, you can't separate them. Well, I can't.
14th-Sep-2013 01:52 am (UTC)
Yes yes yes.

"Choosing" one means *not choosing* the other

I know! It's not possible! I have a super soft spot for Sam but Dean is awesomesauce and there cannot be one without the other!
13th-Sep-2013 07:34 pm (UTC)
Sammy! And yes, so much love for Dean, too.

I'm gonna do it. :)
14th-Sep-2013 01:53 am (UTC)
Saaaammmyyyyy!

I think this one will be fun. :)
13th-Sep-2013 07:35 pm (UTC)
Bi-bro Dean!girl here.
14th-Sep-2013 01:55 am (UTC)
Hello you! I've decided that bi-bro girls, bi-bro Dean!girls and bi-bro Sam!girls are the best!
14th-Sep-2013 01:41 am (UTC)
You made me (okay, inspired me) to play along too! Though it's going to get trickier, isn't it....
14th-Sep-2013 01:56 am (UTC)
Oh yay! You're playing too! <33

And yes - much tricker. I'm already pondering the next question and I'm stuck...
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