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16th-Oct-2013 10:35 pm
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Hot damn! I enjoyed that episode.

I feel like I mostly want to just SQUEE because there was just SO MUCH hot stuff. But I also feel like saying - "who are you and where's my Show?!" because there were things in there that we just don't get very often. Like Sam and Dean TALKING! (*guh* and the L word was actually said!!) I find it rather ironic that they seem to be completely on the same page - they are communicating beautifully and yet there's this MASSIVE deception/secret between them. Which, yeah - I know that's the point. :)

Wheeeeee....counting the ways!

Before I get started I have to mention the elephant in the room. Dean's non con decision last week will still weigh heavily on many and I know it's placed a rather large cloud over Dean's character. I'm currently ok with it and even though I'm not feeling 100% confident that they will be addressing the nature of what Dean did satisfactorily, I feel like the enormity of what Dean has done will be faced in future episodes and I'm pretty damn happy with the direction they seem to be taking. He at least acknowledged his recent decisions.

1. I'm going to be completely SHALLOW to start and just say how totally HOT HOT HOT HOT that episode was. The Js looked amazing (as per usual) but Abaddon (and Zeke!!!!!) added a level that got me all hot at bothered. That scene between Abaddon and Dean...*IZ DED*. There was also an edginess and sexiness that I feel like we haven't seen in the show for a while ("puts the SAM in S&M"..teehee).

2. Speaking of HOT...JEEEEZZZZZ!!! Angel!Sam friggin' did my head (and other places!) in!. HOW AMAZING WAS THAT?!! My jaw was on the ground (and yeah, I might have clapped and bounced around a bit). It took me by complete surprise. I didn't expect we'd see Zeke so soon - and certainly not like that. That scene alone (and Dean/Abaddon) might have been enough for me to love the ep - the fact that there was so much more is icing on the cake.

3. DEAN DEAN DEAN! Oh Dean! (I think that was my reaction to him last week). But... WOW! Kudos to Jensen for showing that lovely mix of knowing how much of a line he crossed with stopping the trials and fixing Sam and being so relived to have him alive and by his side again. He's so troubled (loved the look he gave Sam when he said "we have bigger troubles") and yet there's a strange peace about him. It's a curious mix and I have to say I like it. Dean actually SAID STUFF!! He convinced Kevin to stay and admitted he, along with Cas, was family (awwwww...). And he talked with Zeke and admitted some pretty personal stuff to him (not being able to talk to Sam and admitting he wants him to be a good guy). I LOVE THAT HE VOICED WHAT MUCH OF FANDOM HAS BEEN ASKING FOR - BE A GOOD GUY ZEKE!

4. Oh Jared, you are so very awesome. Ok, so I'm probably biased 'cause I'm such a fan, but what a mix of emotions he gave us. I loved that moment when Tracy mentioned releasing Lucifer. :((( He also seemed genuinely happy to be next to Dean. Much like Dean, there seemed to be a peace about him. His comment about having family and friends around really tugged at the heart strings (especially when we know the truth). And then of course we had the awesome....

5. Zeke!Sam!!!!! I much preferred this version of Zeke!Sam than I did to last week's one. I felt the previous one was a little but forced (though it could be argued that Zeke had only just arrived), but this one was so much more like Tahmoh's (and I believe Tahmoh modelled his performance on Jared's). He was also extra hot! (damn that shallowness...). And the fact that Jared gets to play Sam AND Zeke is so exciting.

6. Ezekiel. I agree with Dean - I REALLY hope he's a good guy. It would seem too good (and easy!) to be true if he were, but I LIKE HIM! HE SEEMS SO GENUINE. HE PROTECTED SAM! - ok, he probably did that because he needs Sam alive - but I'd love to believe he's good enough to actually want that for Sam (and Dean).

7. AT LAST I feel like I can embrace Kevin. It's taken me a while to warm to him (I know, I don't know what's wrong with me), but I really liked that we got to see more of what's been going on in his head. And YAY - he mentioned his mom and had some reaction from him about that loss. He was a great mix of strong and vulnerable and smart. I knew he wasn't going to let Crowley go - but I still gave a sigh of relief when we actually saw that he didn't (totally manipulative film making at the end, but it's all part of the shtick). I am truly beginning to feel for Kevin.

8. ABADDON!!!!!! OH JOY!!! SO BADASS AND AWESOME! She's so gorgeous and sexy - but totally competent and...*GUH* - I love that mix of sex and sass. Mostly, I just believe her. She's so deliciously nasty.

9. Crowley was...well, Crowley. He's still scheming and working an angle. I mostly loved his scenes because what the other characters were doing. I think his ambiguity (maybe a little bit more "good" then he used to be), could be interesting. We'll have to see.

10. Tracy. The jury is still out on this character. I like that new hunters are being introduced (and yay new female character), but I want to see more before I get too excited. I'm always a little wary about super glamorous (and perfectly made up) characters (I know I just contradicted myself../o\) - but I did like her injection of attitude, so we'll see. And the other hunter was a nice (even though brief) addition.

11. I really enjoyed the writing. In the beginning I was worried because Dean was coming across as really just using Kevin. He seemed to be quite tough on him, so that turn around at the end was a nice answer to that. I liked that Kevin was set up to turn on the Winchesters and let Crowley go, but of course he didn't and it enhanced how much he does actually feel for the brothers. There were some great one liners.

12. THE BROTHERS! Oh this damn show. Just when I think their love couldn't be more on show they do something like this and have all those beautiful moments.

Dean: You with me?
Sam: You know it.

SQUEEEE! Probably my favourite. :) (And Sam admitting Dean is "pretty awesome" *g*). But they were so in sync. Dean giving commands like a boss and Sam working so seamlessly along side him. Both being kickass heroes AND showing us a bit of that caring side again. Which, of course, makes it all so much sadder knowing the deception.

Other stuff:

I am curious how Zeke is so very powerful. Is that evidence that he's just hitching a ride from Sam and is just biding his time until he "turns" - or do we just have to accept he's got that power? Maybe he's already fully healed after being inside Sam for a short time. Though his wings are damaged (they looked so amazing!) so maybe that's just a fraction of his complete power. hmmmmm

Completely *handwaving* Abaddon's resurrection because YAY I wanted Alaina back. I'm going to go with her loving that body image and so decided to keep that rather than find someone else. What a vessel looks like is clearly important to her (getting those other demons to upgrade theirs). Loved sassy older demon women. :)

LOVED the deserted town set. I can't wait to take a closer look at it, but it had a great feel (reminded me of the set in The End) and I love the shootout moment on that set.

Bunker = <33 So many warm fuzzies from that set.

I wonder if Dean's line "That was then..." was a shout out to their friend (and oft visitor to the set) S.E. Hinton?

I thought Dean had his arm snapped (sounded like it) and yet he got up and seemed perfectly fine. Was that a continuity problem - or did I miss something?

Gotta stop now. I know there's more - I'm still trying to get my head and heart around all the hot and FEELS!

In the meantime:

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16th-Oct-2013 02:55 pm (UTC)
Dean's 'breaking' arm was something the sound guys put in later -- obviously -- and it ended up being a little misleading. Let's just say Abbie cracked his knuckles, k? ;)

But OMG SAM. When Zeke stood up to Sam's full height and took a breath, radiating grace, I just ... UNGHHHH. And then Dean couldn't even meet the angel's eyes, for all the weird and Dean's own discomfort with the situation. Poor guy! I do feel for Dean here. He made a lousy choice, not honoring Sam's own ability to make a choice, but it's giving us some lovely plot fodder!

Agree with you on Tracy too. Jury's still out on that one.

Good ep!
16th-Oct-2013 03:20 pm (UTC)
Oh they put that in without checking that he was meant to have it broken...? ! Weird.

Oh and I meant to mention Dean's reaction to Zeke in the Dean section! He did such a great job of reacting differently to not!sam. He seemed to lay himself bare there and yet remain closed. I think Jensen gave a nuanced performance. I credit Guy Bee a bit for that. I think he brings out great stuff in these guys. (hee...and I meant to mention Dean touching himself...oh boy...)

Plot fodder is tasty indeed!
16th-Oct-2013 03:19 pm (UTC)
Completely dittoing everything you say here. The L word and the boys talking and both of them doing Nuanced acting with a capital N. Just heaven really..:) You're right, Jensen caught this amazing mix of relief, guilt and peace beautifully. And Sam as Zeke - I just knew Dean would go with that - was pitch perfect too.

I'm okay with all the dub-con surrounding Dean's decision last week precisely because of the layers Jensen is giving him over it - and because of how deliciously it is going to bite him in the ass at some point. Am I horrible that the writing so far is actually making me look forward to that?? Fingers crossed, we keep everything sizzling like this.
16th-Oct-2013 10:52 pm (UTC)
If they stick to the tight writing then the fall out from Dean's decision should be awesome (god I hope they a careful with who they choose to write that...Thompson, Carver and probably even Dabb (who wrote this one) should do it justice).

I was really impressed by Jensen in this one. I think he's a great actor, but if not directed well I think he has a tendency to over do it sometimes (Jared too!). There was some nice subtleties with his conflict in this ep.

It's all so wonderfully messed up at the moment (and I love it!).

16th-Oct-2013 03:39 pm (UTC)
I'm at peace with the dubcon because it's very Dean and because I assume it will be addressed later. Also I can't concentrate because of your damn GIFs. Must look at them a little longer. Guh.
16th-Oct-2013 10:54 pm (UTC)
ha! Gifs are very distracting! Those scenes were amazing...

and yeah - Dean's decision will be explored so I am feeling a bit more comfortable about it. Though the more Zeke "uses" Sam, the more problematic it's all going to get...
16th-Oct-2013 03:56 pm (UTC)



16th-Oct-2013 10:55 pm (UTC)
*fans* you - (and me at the same time)
16th-Oct-2013 04:06 pm (UTC)
I'm really happy with the episode too. Agree with everything you said. The scene between Dean and Abbadon was so... *fans herself*

Tracy is... well I'm not sure (unspoiled here, completely and utterly - yeah I don't know how I managed that LOL) we see her again, but if we do I'm gonna wait and see where they take her.

I'm gonna admit Zeke!Sam makes me a little uncomfortable. It's an amazing opportunity for Jared of course and I think he did great, even Zeke felt a little off - but that might be because he only just got to Earth. But yeah, watching him was really weird for me. I did love the broken wings though. I thought that the missing feathers might mean that Zeke's not fully healed yet and I'm guessing this was only bits of his power we've seen.

So looking forward to next week and what they have in store for us.
17th-Oct-2013 04:41 am (UTC)
Yeah - I'm unspoiled about Tracy also. I'm always wary of super attractive women in the hunter roles (which, I know I shouldn't be because that's the nature of television and there are a lot of attractive people in this show)- I just hope they give her substance if she is going to return. She could be very cool.

The wings confuse me a little bit - but I suppose we did see them fall with their wings, so it makes sense that they could be burnt like that (I did love that effect). It would be very cool if the next time we see them they are more developed - indicating Zeke's healing progress. Zeke!Sam is a bit uncomfortable because we know Sam is completely unaware and that really isn't good for Sam. Makes for interesting drama though. :))
16th-Oct-2013 05:00 pm (UTC)
Before I read your post, can I just say how f*cking MUCH I loved Ezekiel angeling out in Sam?!!! That was so freaking awesome!! including the damaged wings displaying him not being fully fit. I'm seeing you shared gifs of that. I'll have a proper look at that now and oooohh.. Abbadon giving erm.. mixed signals-gif. O_O .. erm.. ok then.. *off to reading the post*

If we are not being deceived I'd say with Ezekiel we are getting a very angelic angel, finally! Similar to how Cas was in the beginning. With all the low level actions of the others angels one could think they are just another fraction of the demons. So yay for Ezekiel and I hope he stays that way!
Strangely enough I saw the angeling out totally coming. It seemed so obvious how they got themselves into that trap so unprepared really, just mostly barging in. It was crying out for being a build up to Ezekiel needing to come out and help. But man, that moment it happened, I was practically drooling all over the place. lol. Sooo perfect. :D

I like how Crowly is actually being affected by his human side memories and only when he could sceme again he felt on safe terrain, all back to being cocky. I nearly expected Kevin to kill him at first and thought maybe that's the way Crowly has to go (finally? lol) but the way he is now, so torn really, that could make for some interesting story line.

I've always liked Kevin and this time I thought he really played his age with being smart and a little dumb at the same time, needing some support that he didn't get and so wanted to leave. For me, Dean's "you are family" sounded a little odd as he ignored Kevin so much before, but now says he'd die for him. But maybe he was taking him for granted *because* he was seeing him as family. lol. Or it was a build up that was too much with the sledgehammer for me.
I do have a little problem when a lot of the story unfolds through talking because I do miss stuff (hello language.). I feel less in the flow of the story. So I certainly will have to watch this ep again (and again.. hehe).

Other than that I'm once again nodding my head in agreement with your observations. Reading all the squee certainly adds to the enjoyment of the ep. :D

So yeah, enough said. *goes back to staring at gifs*

Oh, and maybe Ezekiel could use his powers like that because of the desperate situation but can't do it all the time like a fit angel could. That's my explanation anyway. ;)
17th-Oct-2013 10:36 am (UTC)
Hey darlin!

If we are not being deceived I'd say with Ezekiel we are getting a very angelic angel

That would be SO awesome. I would LOVE for Sam to be possessed by an "real" angle (as in the idea that angels are meant to be "good". I think maybe even Cas could learn from him (and I'm looking forward to Sam as Zeke talking to Cas...). And it would be great to explore the nature of a pure angel rather than a bad one.

But maybe he was taking him for granted *because* he was seeing him as family. lol.

Yeah, possibly (and a nice idea). I think Dean slowly realised, during the episode, just how much Kevin means to them. I think there is a certain amount of usefulness (I htink he was very impressed with him convincing the military woman)- but he brought him prune juice with the chicken at the end (cause he was "backed up"), so I think there is genuine concern for him. And I have to admit I missed some of the dialogue and references during the episode also. I re-wetched it today and picked up so much more.

And I like your explanation for Zeke's powers. *nods* :) I'd like them to explore that a bit more in the episodes ahead. I can't wait to see what unfolds!


16th-Oct-2013 05:11 pm (UTC)
That was a really sexy episode. :DDD

What was the shoutout moment on the town set? I haven't noticed anything.
16th-Oct-2013 10:59 pm (UTC)
Sexy yes!

Also - shootout ;) - when Sam took fire and dashed across the screen.
16th-Oct-2013 05:28 pm (UTC)
As always, you said it so very well, and I am just thrilled to be back in love with this Show! I honestly loved the whole thing. And demons seemed scary to me, in a way they haven't seemed since the first couple seasons.

And Sam and Dean.... Dean's little looks. Sam/Zeke....honestly, I thought they hit a home run with this one.

This wasn't even written by Robbie Thompson, was it?
16th-Oct-2013 11:03 pm (UTC)
Hey! Glad you loved it too! (oh man, I hope they continue in this vein).

And no - I too thought it might have been Robbie, but it was Andrew Dabb. I had a feeling the writer had a good understanding of the canon on the show and gave the characters some great lines.
16th-Oct-2013 06:50 pm (UTC)
Oooh you have good thoughts missy, but also the BESTEST gifs LOL!

PS this set totally spoke to me of the 2014 set too... loved it.

Edited at 2013-10-16 06:51 pm (UTC)
17th-Oct-2013 12:36 pm (UTC)
Those gifs are awesome yes?! (not mine alas...)

I ADORE the set! Any place deserted looks so cool.
16th-Oct-2013 08:19 pm (UTC)
Really enjoyed this ep. and think we got some great performances all around - especially Jared and Jensen.

I'll say Abaddon's little speech to the minions felt forced to me, but I blame writer's for the clunky anvils there. Very glad to see this actress/character back and love how she knew Dean's soft spot would be being a meat suit for her. I felt some real vulnerability from Dean in that threat - as if he might really be in danger that seems to have been missing from show for a while.

Sam/Zeke moment was amaze!balls. wondering if Zeke will be changed by his time inside Sam? Possibly good angel goes morally ambiguous - decides he likes Sam's meatsuit, etc. And loved that Zeke is all too happy to spill Sam's emotions to Dean, although I imagine it would piss Sam off. And how will Sam change with Zeke wiping his memories (as he has gone from wanting to die to being happy (that also felt a little overplayed) in one short episode.

@kevin - I agree that Dean's 'your family' seemed a little too much tell and not enough show, but I think I read a good point (don't remember where) that Dean is good at manipulation (Cas) and while he may mean it, he is not above using other's to get what he needs.

It feels like the writer's have upped their game and I'm hoping for some genuine emotional payoff!
17th-Oct-2013 12:49 pm (UTC)
I felt some real vulnerability from Dean in that threat - as if he might really be in danger that seems to have been missing from show for a while.

Yes! I actually thought for a moment it might happen and how awful it would be for Dean (great for us though...Jensen as Abaddon would be quite the thing to behold). And Dean in real peril has been missing for a while...

The Sam/Zeke questions are all very interesting and I think this is why I love this storyline so much. It could go in so many ways.

as he has gone from wanting to die to being happy

In my mind he didn't want to die in the last episode. He wanted to live but didn't know how. Though from his last memory - telling Dean that he doesn't want to let him down, to now, I think is a quick turn around. It makes me wonder if Zeke is already having an effect on Sam (uplifting his spirit etc) - which is messed up, but also good if Sam is genuinely being healed body and soul.

I really hope it continues this strong.
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17th-Oct-2013 12:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think we'll have to handwave the break. It seems the sound guys put it on but there was no actual break. Or something.

Or maybe he's more powerful because he's the angelic equivalent of Abaddon - a 'knight' of Heaven.

Oooh, is he a "knight of Heaven"? If that's the case it would be a great companion to Abaddon. (especially if Abaddon manages to take Dean as a vessel at some point. ;D
16th-Oct-2013 09:05 pm (UTC)
The episode was great! I'm one of those who really hope Zeke's a good guy. I mean, the chances that Sam won't find out about Zeke are pretty slim, so it'll cause at least some friction between the boys, but it would be awesome if there were no new additions to Sam's list of possession-related traumas.

*happy sigh* I'll just roll around in the squee here. *rolls and rolls*

17th-Oct-2013 12:58 pm (UTC)
I too hope Zeke is good - mostly because we've already had "evil" not!Sam - so this would make a good contrast. And there is no doubt Sam will found out. It'll be the consequences that create a lot of the season drama I reckon.

And it's so nice to be squeeing. I don't feel like I did a lot of it last season (some though...*G*)

16th-Oct-2013 10:08 pm (UTC)
Ditto also to everything you said. I only wanted to add that I was jumping up and down to finally (finally!!!) hear Dean admit that Sam was doing what they thought what the right thing when he killed Lilith. I wonder, has he thought that for some time or is this Dean's tendency to give others' mistakes/choices more slack once he's been faced with something similar?

Great ep!!!

Edited at 2013-10-16 11:09 pm (UTC)
18th-Oct-2013 06:43 am (UTC)
Yeah - I'm never sure with Dean. He seems to come around to something after a while. I also think it's ok for him to be pissed at his brother for whatever reason, but it's not ok for someone else to be. Typical sibling thing I think...:))

Great to hear him say it though. :)
16th-Oct-2013 10:29 pm (UTC)
Hah, I got my wing shot anyhow even though the wings were supposed to be burned away. If he gets his wings all the way back, will he be able to teleport? I'm glad they were talking but I can't be sure it's all Sam in all those comments. He's too content. I think it's skeevy for Zeke to tell Dean Sam's thoughts that Sam might not ever voice in a million years. Of course the whole situation is really skeevy anyhow. Terribly attractive but skeevy. And of course Abaddon wants Dean's body….doesn't everybody? He's lucky she's the gloating kind of demon.

I think tractor!angel and demon!granny need to be the spinoff. Just the thought of kids making deals and getting 10 years. AAAeeeeeiiii.

I think there was more purple. I'm off to go look. I know we-wear-short-shorts chick had some in her shirt. I think you can see some on Sam's t-shirt during the wing scene. Kevin's shirt at the end was too, I think.
18th-Oct-2013 06:49 am (UTC)
There are so many questions about what Zeke is going to be able to do whilst in Sam. It's pretty freaky (and yeah, skeevy). Zeke using the "L" work was a pretty low blow - as in, getting Dean to talk about it like that. I wonder if that because he's socially awkward (just like Cas) or trying to manipulate Dean some more. I suppose we will find out soon enough.

Ha! I loved the grandma angel! But *yikes* the thoughts of kids selling their soul for the biggest bag of sweeties they've ever seen.

I remember noticing Kevin's purple shirt. The colours didn't stand out to me as much as they did last episode. I'm looking forward to seeing what you find.
16th-Oct-2013 10:44 pm (UTC)
I saw enjoyed this episode. The season had a great start
18th-Oct-2013 06:49 am (UTC)
Yeah - very strong start indeed. :)
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