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10.01 Ep reaction/review 
9th-Oct-2014 10:50 am
Hair angst
Not going to deny, it feels damn good to write that in the subject line.

And also not going to deny how pleased I am that the show is back. I did miss it.



I'm a little bit surprised how much I enjoyed that. It might be simply because I've missed it on my screen or it could be that there was enough going on to pique my interest.

There were issues with it (not least that it was rather *meh* as a season opener), but overall I think it set up few board pieces that I'm looking forward to seeing how they play out.

Highlights:

I think my most favourite thing about this episode is the way it played on our expectations and knowledge of the "norms" in this universe. The exchange of "bitch/jerk" is a fantastic example. To a casual viewer this wouldn't mean much but to the long term fan this cuts deep and reminds us just how wrong it is that Dean isn't with Sam. I loved it (and I'm going to love it even more when they repeat this exchange later in the season between Sam and Dean *hopes*).

The other big reminder is having Sam in peril and Dean not giving a damn. We know these two so well that this is not a situation that would ever occur if things were normal. Much the same way soulless!Sam held back and watched Dean be turned into a vampire.

I felt that all the "partnership" moments between Dean 'n Crowley and Cas 'n Hannah were also ways of acknowledging just how wrong it is that Sam and Dean are apart. Perhaps a little heavy handed, but it gave me brother feels so I was pretty content.

I also liked that the theme "what is a monster" seems to be on the cards for this season. Ok, I know it's been done before (in fact, I'm not seeing anything really "new" so far), but perhaps it's going to be examined a bit deeper this time. Especially in terms of Dean. Cole mentioned Dean being a "monster" when they last met - so pre demon!Dean. It makes me very curious what Dean could have done that then created a "monster" out of Cole. I love that they've introduced the idea of Dean being some sort of monster outside of what he is at the moment. Could make for some interesting future episodes.

And on the theme of monsters, something I've been considering for a while is how being a "demon" (or even an angel), is actually no worse really than just being a bad human. I felt that when Crowley was becoming "human" it didn't change him a whole lot. He was still manipulative and controlling and…well, human. Take the demon out of the demon and you might find there's not a lot of difference. In "real" life we could easily label someone as evil. I don't know if it's a theme they will deliberately explore, but it's something we might begin to see.

Sam has supposedly done something "monstrous" before this episode. I seriously can't believe they want us to buy that Sam's a monster for torturing a demon. So, what's he done? Time will tell no doubt (but what could he have done, I wonder? Kill a total innocent as a sacrifice maybe?. Maybe the hair cut counts...).

The BEST character of the episode has to be the guy in the gas station. Not only was the acting spot on, the writing was some of the best in the episode. :)

Demon!Dean (or rather new hybrid demon!Dean - there's something distinctly different about this type of demon) was extremely well done by Jensen. What impressed me was just how different he was to regular Dean. Sure, we've seen Dean acting out in the past (namely S3 when he was "enjoying" his last months alive), but this felt SO different it had me pining for regular Dean to return. Much like soulless!Sam, Dean's lacking the very thing that makes him "human". Compassion. On top of that he's a complete douche - not caring a jot about what others think of him. And much like soulless!Sam this is a great way of examining those qualities (and insecurities and character traits) that actually make Dean "Dean". I hope they go much deeper (and darker) into this. This could be as layered as I hoped it might be *fingers crossed*.

I enjoyed Crowley too - lots of great one liners. He really does seem to need Dean. Not sure if this is part of Crowley becoming human last season, or if he genuinely graves companionship.

Dean's "skank". I'll say more on this later but one aspect of this character I liked was that she wasn't completely cardboard cutout. She obviously has issues of her own and even though she existed to show us what a disgusting douche Dean is, we at least got some good POV from her. I actually would love to see more of Anne Marie (though not so she can die please).

"You hit another dog?" - FAVE LINE! I think mostly because it means Carver hasn't forgotten that and as much as I hated that story line, if they actually bring it into play this season, I will be pretty happy.

Dean's hair! <3


Midlights (no idea if that's such thing, but you know what I mean).

Sam, Sam Sam… I'm a little torn by Sam in this episode to be honest. On the one hand I really got that overwhelming sense of emptiness and tiredness from Sam, but on the other it all felt just a little bit forced. I appreciate that Sam has had a month of mourning and is filled with frustration in not being able to find Dean, but…*searches for that thing that feels off* - perhaps it was the hair? That could be it. A bob just doesn't suit Sam and perhaps I fixated on that rather than the man angst. I need more time to think Sam through (maybe I'm just not used to seeing Sam be…"Sam"). Stuff has happened over the previous - was is 6 weeks? - so maybe when we see what that is this performance may make more sense. Of course I love determined Sam but "I will save Dean" almost feels like a set up for a major fall (Carver behind the scenes laughing…"hehe, no you won't Sam…").

Cas and Hannah. Rather strangely (perhaps) I didn't mind this partnership. It leaves me totally perplexed as to what on earth they are planning for the angels this season because - WHERE CAN THEY GO?! More of the same? Mess in heaven, exploration of human nature, leadership issues, death and more death to the poor vessels?? I really hope they find a new direction to take them because I will be fast forwarding all the angel bits in the future. What I DID like about them was the potential for Hannah to become a "real" character. It's probably just me, but I like the idea of her discovering what Daniel was talking about (and I am secretly hoping for Cas to discover what it means to fall in love. Yeah, yeah - yuk to romance, but Cas has experienced love before, but to be "in love", might be an interesting step (though not really, as it will mean Hannah will have to die to bring about Cas angst…boo).

Cole. Think I'm going to like him. Lots more to find out about him and I'm looking forward to that.

Sam in peril. Always ok with me *g* (though I like it much more when we have a big bro who would do anything to come to his rescue).

I like it when Cas is called Castiel. No idea why. Just do.


Lowlights

Sam's hair. I know I've mentioned that already but it needs to be mentioned again. Argh.

Sam falling for the car trouble and creepy helpful guy. Even just a little bit of wariness would have been nice. THOUGH - I am going to give Sam a pass because he is out of sorts. Poor boy.

White men! Wow, I'm not normally one to notice this (my bad I think), but could they cram any more white men into this show?

There seemed to be the message that women are there to either have sex with, torture or be a romantic interest. And ok, I know it's tough when all your protagonists are male, but boy - it really stood out in this episode. Hoping to see some good character development in there future - especially from Hannah (and maybe even Cole's wife). Love to see Anne Marie back too.

A line explaining why Cas isn't staying with Sam would have been helpful. They've obviously been together in the past so maybe it's something to do with that.

Cas killing Daniel. Not happy about that. Really tired with vessel deaths.

I don't get why Cas is dying *handwaves* (and why didn't that slice with the angel blade pretty much kill him?)


So, not exactly a thrilled packed or even and "exciting" episode. Being spoiled so throughly for it didn't help (I felt like I had pretty much seen every part of this episode before it aired), so very little was a surprise. That said, I quite like its gentle pace and slow introduction to some themes this season (though hoping it won't be this "safe" in future episodes). The boys aren't together, but it's so very very much about them being together and obviously finding their way back to each other. I suspect we're in for some tough times ahead (again!), but before that happens I'm going to enjoy desperate!Sam and hybrid demon!Dean.

There's enough questions left unanswered (like, why did Sam get a bob cut?) to make me excited for the next episode. I haven't watched the promo as I'm thinking knowing too much is spoiling my enjoyment.



Poll #1984851 Episode reaction

10.01 was...

Awesome! Now that's what I'm talking about!
7(8.5%)
Pretty darn good. I was satisfied.
43(52.4%)
OK. Not the best, not the worst.
22(26.8%)
Seriously? After 10 seasons we get that?
3(3.7%)
Nope. Nope and nope. Just. Nope (worse than Sam's hair)
1(1.2%)
Didn't watch. But will.
4(4.9%)
Didn't watch. And won't.
2(2.4%)
Comments 
9th-Oct-2014 02:59 am (UTC)
After this episode, I have to say I'm more happy for your insightful review to be back than the show :D

I agree with all of your points though, although I don't feel as strongly about the hair ;) I do feel more meh about the angel story line. If they want to keep angels around, fine, but could they please get it together with Sam and Dean and not have two different shows? Especially since this angel story line does not seem to have anything in common with the concept of supernatural.
And I guess I feel more strongly about the female characters. It was kind of a slap in the face to just shallowly enjoy some shirtless Demon!Dean and the get hit casually with that internalized mysoginy. Because wow, there weren't a hundred other things she could've said, no, the writers need to go the woman thinks she deserved it route.

Overall I did enjoy the ep 8nostalgia?), and I still have hope for the future. And I know if I feel really bad about an ep, I just need to come here and you'll make it a bit better!
9th-Oct-2014 03:23 am (UTC)
If they want to keep angels around, fine, but could they please get it together with Sam and Dean and not have two different shows?

Yeah, the separate story lines are strange - I suspect it's more to do with giving Jared and Jensen some time off It's the only reason I can think they didn't have Sam and Cas working together to help Dean - that would have made much for sense. Along with Sam looking after Cas.

Conceptually, I think the angel storyline mirrors the ideas of freewill and being a "good little soldier". Doesn't particularly tie in with the current themes (it would seem), but maybe the two will come together when Dean is back to normal. Though yeah, Heaven's problems don't interest me in the slightest. I figure they'll have to introduce some major twist in order to keep that storyline alive.

It was kind of a slap in the face to just shallowly enjoy some shirtless Demon!Dean and the get hit casually with that internalized misogyny.

Oh, I hear you. The "I deserved it" is horrifying - she's clearly used to being abused and it's on that level I wanted to know more. Though her story is such so as to highlight D!Dean's abusive tendencies (perhaps?) but also his character trait of coming to the rescue. I am often hopeful that the writers are aware of what they are doing when they write women like that (highlighting these issues), but I think I am probably naive to think that.

I just need to come here and you'll make it a bit better!

HA! I wasn't sure I was going to be able to. I was preparing myself for much worse - so was pleasantly surprised. I know it had issues - but when doesn't it? Maybe I was just happen that Sam and Dean went actually arguing or fighting over miscommunications - again. ;)

I'll always see hope - until they rip it from under me!
xx
9th-Oct-2014 03:06 am (UTC)
Haha--I liked the Dog line for the same reason. Like OMG they remember how HORRIBLE that was? Yes! They remembered what they wrote *cheering*

Also. I am also not a fan of Sam's bob cut. But I would like to advocate for bangs!Sam once again. It's just at such an awkward length...

(but what could he have done, I wonder? Kill a total innocent as a sacrifice maybe?. Maybe the hair cut counts...).

Remember that he has almost killed Bobby twice (once it was the trickster and he was looking for Dean, second he was soulless) but still--Sam doing worse things than that to find Dean?

Nope. It's got to be the haircut.

I thoroughly enjoyed your review!
9th-Oct-2014 03:28 am (UTC)
Like OMG they remember how HORRIBLE that was? Yes! They remembered what they wrote *cheering*

Ha yes… it's like - "if we joke about it maybe it won't seem so bad?!"

It's just at such an awkward length…

Bangs I'm good with - it's that straight bob at the back… maybe when it grows out a bit it might look better (glad we have our priorities straight for this ep!).

Remember that he has almost killed Bobby twice

True. But I don't consider Bobby an innocent. I'm thinking something truly monstrous would be killing a child (noooooo) or someone who has nothing to do with hunting. Not sure. Sam has done some pretty dark stuff in the past, topping that will be hard.

I thoroughly enjoyed your review!

Thank you! :)
9th-Oct-2014 03:45 am (UTC)
Felt to me like it was all setup for future eps...the only storyline that was completed to any degree was the one with the angels...

It would have made more sense to me for Sam to torture the demon girl after he had looked thru the bunker stuff and not found anything. Also, what was the deal with the demon phone call? Did Sam make her do it?

Demon!Dean's skank comment really made it clear how un-Dean he is, and then having no concern for Sam, just promising to kill Cole...

I really think it's easier to watch the episodes back-to-back and not have time to think about them!
9th-Oct-2014 11:26 am (UTC)
Yeah, it was definitely a set up episode (just not as powerfully set up as 9.01).

It would have made more sense to me for Sam to torture the demon girl after he had looked thru the bunker stuff and not found anything.

My feeling on this is that these scenes were out of order. Sam looking at that note would have been one of the first things he saw when he returned to Dean's room. So yeah, I think it was a montage of "what Sam has been up to" since he discovered Dean missing. Sam with the phone call. I'd say nothing came of it - it was more about us seeing how far Sam was willing to go to get answers.

Demon!Dean's skank comment really made it clear how un-Dean he is, and then having no concern for Sam, just promising to kill Cole…

Absolutely. I felt it was more disturbing than even the violence. We've seen Dean violent before - but that horrible to a woman? He's definitely more respectful than that.

I really think it's easier to watch the episodes back-to-back and not have time to think about them!

Ha! Not think about them? Man, if I could find a way to do that….;)

9th-Oct-2014 04:00 am (UTC)
Just posted myself that I haven't watched due to focus elsewhere (not due to show disgruntlement) and that I already knew a lot of what's in this ep (and a few in the future). I don't mind being spoiled. Will watch and catch up shortly I imagine. Am looking forward to it. Just a lot of *stuff* happening in RL at the moment.

:)
9th-Oct-2014 11:27 am (UTC)
Hey honey!

I know the feeling. Damn RL getting in the way of our watching!

I hope you enjoy it! (and I hope every thing is ok..xx)
9th-Oct-2014 04:17 am (UTC)
I have to wonder in all of this how much Crowley is lying to Dean. I also wonder if there was some extra message for Sam there at the end beyond the obvious in what Dean actually said to Cole.

Dean will always be porn guy now.

I think some of Sam's dialog was clunky. I'm going to kill you dead. Really, how else are you going to kill someone. Oh right, this is SPN so killing someone alive might be possible. :-) But I wonder if that's one of the reasons Sam felt a little flat.

I liked Daniel, fishing angel, former pizza guy. I'm having a hard time warming up to Hannah at all. It all seems like a retread of an angel plot we've had before. Cas was all worried about another angel dying for him and I'm sitting there squawking about INNOCENT VESSELS DYING! Argh.

I think I realized that I'm just not over last year and it's going to take more than one episode to put it behind me.



9th-Oct-2014 12:18 pm (UTC)
Hey!

I think I realized that I'm just not over last year and it's going to take more than one episode to put it behind me.

I thought I would be too. Which is why it "surprised" me that I enjoyed it so much. I am carrying baggage, but I'm not sure how that will affect my viewing until they start delving into the monster theme (and how we see what they're going to do with Sam…).

I'm not sure at all about Crowley at the moment. On the one hand he seems like he's genuinely surprised that Dean isn't just following him around (like a pet) - but is that a ruse? We'll find out no doubt - I have to believe they're going to be doing more with Crowley than just seeing him "play" with Dean.

I'm having a hard time warming up to Hannah at all.

I didn't warm to her at all last season. I think maybe I'm just feeling hopeful that they'll do something interesting with her? I dunno…I'm confused why they keep persisting with the angel story line. I mean, I know it's to keep Cas around but they really need to do something interesting with him (and that's a hard call considering they can't give him too much power).

Cas was all worried about another angel dying for him

I thought maybe there was going to be a break through! I'd love to see Cas man-up a bit. He's been around humans long enough to know exactly what those angels had experienced. I thought he'd be more sympathetic (and less stabby with the knife!)

I'm going to kill you dead. Really, how else are you going to kill someone. Oh right, this is SPN so killing someone alive might

Ha! Yes. I read it like that actually. Not only am I going to kill him (like he probably thought he had done with Abbaddon), but this time he's going to make sure he STAYS DEAD!. But - dammit. We know they never kill Crowley. Of course there will be a reason to keep him alive.
9th-Oct-2014 04:56 am (UTC)
Oh, how happy I am to see an Ash48 review in my inbox! ♥

Take the demon out of the demon and you might find there's not a lot of difference. In "real" life we could easily label someone as evil. I don't know if it's a theme they will deliberately explore, but it's something we might begin to see.

As always, you hit the nail on the head. What I liked about demon!Dean is how Deanish he remained. Still saving people, even as a demon. And it was good to see the return of the Sam of yore (SMART and badass). "WHERE IS MY BROTHER?!" Oh, yes indeedy.

And yup, I'm also hoping for the return of Ann Marie. I like her.

So totally with you on the "so many white men" angle. Cole could have easily been a badass Ellen-class female hunter or a POC. Oh, Show, you fail us.

Edited at 2014-10-09 04:57 am (UTC)
9th-Oct-2014 12:35 pm (UTC)
Oh, how happy I am to see an Ash48 review in my inbox! ♥

Great to be back writing reviews! I missed chatting about my show with peeps! :))

What I liked about demon!Dean is how Deanish he remained.

Yeah, I really love that aspect. Much of what we know of Dean is there - the singing, the one night stands, the drinking, the violence - but there's a creepier, nastier element. It's what he's like without all those things that keep all that in check (much like soulless!Sam). What I also love is the lack of remorse - we keep expecting him to buckle somehow and show some compassion. But he doesn't. God I hope they play this out properly.

Cole could have easily been a badass Ellen-class female hunter or a POC. Oh, Show, you fail us.

OH YES YES YES! Perfect opportunity to broaden the representation. I'd love to have seen character like Tamara returned (she'd probably have a beef with Dean). I'd love to have seen any female in this role. Dammit!
9th-Oct-2014 08:03 am (UTC)
V happy to have your reviews back! :D
I'm pretty much in agreement with everything you've said - I was largely unspoiled (saw a trailer with the sound off because I couldn't resist nekkid Dean) but otherwise, I'd not really seen much and I still wasn't surprised by anything. Oh except Sam being so clueless about the damn car breaking down and the suspicious advent of a helping hand on an otherwise totally empty road. I mean, come on!

I'm unhappy with Sam's hair but even more unhappy with Dean's bouffant thing. I don't mind his hair longer but all that volume is just pouffy.

I'm SO bored with the angel storyline. Seriously seriously BORED. We've had all those themes explored before and they were far more interesting when it was directly relevant to the main story of SPN - ie when it was linked to Sam and Dean and not happening as a side line with a bunch of characters completely devoid of personality. quickreaver called them cardboard cut outs and I'd have to agree. Maybe Hannah will get developed a bit more but I am not that hopeful.

White guys! Yes...indeed. I have seen some spoilers that suggest there is a woman centric episode on the way - hurrah! But where are the ethnic minorities too? It's not like SPN can't accommodate them - we've had awesome ones in the past - Victor, Gordon, Missouri, Kevin and Mrs Tran... It would be nice to mix this up a bit.

PS I'm never not going to be disturbed by all these mentions of me... I will have to isolate the clip of Dean saying my name alongside the part where he says we had great sex together LOL!!!!

Edited at 2014-10-09 08:05 am (UTC)
9th-Oct-2014 12:44 pm (UTC)
V happy to have your reviews back!

Me too! I missed chatting about the show!

I don't mind his hair longer but all that volume is just pouffy.

haha…they are competing for the next Vidal Sassoon contract.

I'm SO bored with the angel storyline.

Yeah. They are pretty damn boring. During the retrospective I loved seeing Zach again. It reminded me how awesome the angels CAN be. Damn he was good. And of course Lucifer. In comparison Hannah (and even Cas *ducks tomatoes*) seem lame. Wishy washy. I think I was just trying to see the positive side to what Cas and Hannah could become. My hopes for her developing into an interesting character will probably be dashed…

It would be nice to mix this up a bit.

Please! I get that they are focussing on a male centric universe but do the women have to be so helpless. I am hoping Rob Berens comes to the rescue and writes us some awesome women (and I know the ep you mean…CAN'T WAIT!!).

I will have to isolate the clip of Dean saying my name alongside the part where he says we had great sex together LOL

HA! I was thinking that as I was writing her name!! And I know what you mean… Sarah appeared in a couple of eps!! (though, got killed…boo. Though she was with Sam, so I'm kinda happy about that…*g*).

xx


9th-Oct-2014 09:26 am (UTC)
So, what's he (Sam) done?... Maybe the hair cut counts...).

THIS! I was so distracted by this hair cut accident. lol

I must say I wasn't spoilt (much) and very worried to press play to start watching the episode. And was massively relieved to find that I could enjoy it. Yay! :D

Demon!Dean (aka porn guy, lol) is great. What an arse! LOL. Perfectly played by Jensen. And I love how he gives Crowly a hard time. A most challenging pet... Not easy to handle. I massively enjoyed the demon/Dean Crowly banter.
I loved how desperately Sam was looking for Dean. But, like you, I also had this feeling of it all being a little forced. No idea why. *shrugs* The one thing that had me rolleyes was: "What is that?!" when Cole opened the hood. It sounded so... naive. And then he gets knocked out and never saw it coming.. duh.. But yeah, maybe he was very tired. Or the haircut was affecting his brains. :P

Angel story: *sigh*. I really like Cas. I really like Cas.. and.. erm. *handwaves the angel "story line" and continues to like Cas* ;)

I'm glad Show is back. And am happy to say I'm looking foward to the next episode. :)

xx

Btw, I clicked "OK, not the best not the worst" in the pole, but was torn between this button and the "pretty darn good..." one. I would have needed one in between those two. :D





9th-Oct-2014 01:09 pm (UTC)
Hey!

The one thing that had me rolleyes was: "What is that?!" when Cole opened the hood.

Yeah. Me too. I think that a canon attempt at making Sam still know nothing about cars. But nope. He had to look after Dean's baby for a whole year so he'd know a thing or too. I'm putting it down to him being so tired and worn out that his guard wasn't up *nods* (I don't, but there you go. Carver and Sam? Nah, Carver struggles with Sam I hate to say…)

Angel story: *sigh*. I really like Cas. I really like Cas.. and.. erm. *handwaves the angel "story line" and continues to like Cas* ;)

Yeah, it's a tough one. I actually like Cas a bit more lately (I think it might have more to liking Misha more after getting to know him a bit better during GISHWHES), but I'm, trying to be more "interested" in his storyline. But they do seem determined to make him (and the angels) kinda lame. Maybe we'll be in for more excitement later on. *hopes*

I would have needed one in between those two. :D

I hear ya! I'll tweak the poll a bit. I'm thinking of doing it for each episode to gage the reaction...

*hugs*


9th-Oct-2014 10:44 am (UTC)
Like you said I enjoyed this episode. It did feel quite quiet (I think that's the word I'm after) for a season premier, but it certainly felt like they were world building; showing us the differences, and dropping some clues about what will lie ahead. Hopefully we're on an uphill climb.

I enjoyed demon Dean. But I don't know, maybe I was expecting him to be way more of a badass, which we did see towards the end (and I'm hoping to see him go a little darker too). I'm not really sure what I wanted but he didn't have impact I thought he was going to have (but I did spoil myself with spoilers, so that could be why. Lesson learned. No more spoilers).

Sam's hair bothered me me too. They just style it weird, I don't think I've ever seen Jared's hair look like a bob!!!

That gas attendant guy was awesome!!! And I have no idea where the angels are heading - I was hoping they were going to gradually give them less and less air time.

Overall, I left the ep looking forward to seeing where Show is heading.

You write the best ep reactions!! Take care :)

9th-Oct-2014 03:39 pm (UTC)
maybe I was expecting him to be way more of a badass

So far I'm liking the idea that he's missing that essential ingredient that makes Dean who he is - his compassion. Dean is generally pretty badass, so to see him, instead, devoid of care makes him more evil. I like this approach so far - but hope to see more layering to keep it interesting.

I was hoping they were going to gradually give them less and less air time.

Yeah nope. Not gonna happen I think… ;/

Thanks hun! Great to have the show back! :)
9th-Oct-2014 11:02 am (UTC)
Let me start by saying I'm not a stalker, I swear. :D Just catching up with my flist. I really liked your thoughts about the 'norms' in the universe and everything that isn't 'right'. Out of all of them Dean not caring about Sam is probably the biggest shock and the most obvious one, I liked how you expanded it to the unusual partnerships in this as well.

I.. I liked Sam's hair here. *ducks and hides*
I've been wanting him to get it a little shorter for ages. More like S3 short, but that's a good start.

I think what feels 'off' about him is actually what he's been missing for a while now, passion and hope. He's been slowly losing it since the trials and we've seen him almost apathetic at times in S9. Now he looks sad, yes, and terrified by the idea of demon!Dean, but also very focused on his mission to save his brother all costs, and genuinely believes he can. I feel like we haven't seen this side of Sam for a long time.
10th-Oct-2014 04:35 am (UTC)
Let me start by saying I'm not a stalker, I swear

Haha! I know…:D I often do that to - answer a few comments at once. :)

I liked Sam's hair here. *ducks and hides*

I liked the front but man, that bob cut is kind of weird. I may get used to it. :)

I feel like we haven't seen this side of Sam for a long time.

That could very well be it. After the S8 beginning - where he resigned himself to Dean being dead and carrying on with life, we haven't really had the chance to see this level of desperation. I suppose the idea that Dean's body could be possessed would piss Sam off and drive him to this level of desperation. He'd also be mighty pissed off that Crowley played a part in it all.

I'm thinking the next few episodes will reveal more about what been going on with Sam… I'm looking forward to it.
9th-Oct-2014 11:09 am (UTC)
Thanks for the review, happy on all points with this actually and yeah *re-reads* you certainly have a way of tapping in to the brain of a lot of the watchers I think :)
10th-Oct-2014 04:37 am (UTC)
Oh thank you sweetie. Sometimes I'm in step with fandom - sometime not. ;)

xx
9th-Oct-2014 11:42 am (UTC)
i thought it was good. i didnt mind Sam's hair. i pay no attention to the angel storyline. i will wait and see for next week, it looks like season 10 is starting out ok. taking this week by week slowly. im glad to see your review back :D
10th-Oct-2014 04:37 am (UTC)
Yeah, taking it week by week sounds like a good idea.
9th-Oct-2014 12:07 pm (UTC)
I voted I was satisfied and on the whole I was, there's some potential building and the Winchesters separation isn't grating on my nerves as yet!

Saying that there were some problematic issues that I wished they'd handled better. Chopping off Sam's hair is one thing, but spending so much time filming over his shoulder where I couldn't take my eyes off the perfectly bobbed back was one distraction too many!

Do guys not worry about strangers offering help on the side of the road? I mean that honestly, is it a guy thing? Someone needs to research this because from a woman's point of view that was beyond the par stupid! Let me guess, a bloke wrote this yes? Hmmmm....

Vessels are people! Meat suits are people, it's like soylent green on acid in this show some days. I would much prefer the angel storyline revolved around the taking of human hosts with no expectations of giving them back, and the effect that has on their families, than go around yet again with heaven's boring politics. Angels on the whole are boring me, have done for a while, this didn't seem to be taking any different stance and the whole merry-go-round that's been going on for years! Sorry but flashing a little Cas flesh around doesn't make it any more interesting either.

I had higher hopes for Demon Dean, it wasn't bad, but it wasn't really anything new either, more like Dean off leash and on a bender, with a cruel streak, maybe it's because, no matter what Crowley says, Dean isn't fully a demon yet, maybe the feeding of the mark is the crux of the problem and like any addiction, cut him off from the violence and the demon retreats, now that would interest me.

Why did Dean answer THAT phone call? Just because Crowley had annoyed him? I don't know, but I don't believe he's not on his way to rip Cole limb from limb. The monster line was interesting too, I can follow show when it does the circular plotting with direction, the circular plotting of tying Sam to a chair at least 10 times a series? Not so much...

There was a lot going on at times, but not a lot of forward momentum, some information dropped was intriguing and other bits were more confusing, but hopefully the threads they're weaving this year will actually have a solution and won't just be dropped.

So yes, watching it I was entertained, thinking about it a little annoyed, but happy to give it some space to develop.
10th-Oct-2014 04:58 am (UTC)
Hey!

I've been thinking that because there wasn't anything majorly controversial in the episode (not non con!) it felt pretty tame. And maybe tame = slow and uninteresting (for some).

Do guys not worry about strangers offering help on the side of the road?

I know! I get that Sam is badass (and run down) but he's been in the game too much to fall for such a thing. I mean, I wouldn't have minded that he "fell" for it, with a little more wariness from. Perhaps even reaching for the gun much sooner.

but it wasn't really anything new either, more like Dean off leash and on a bender, with a cruel streak,

It makes me wonder if it's something they will build up on. Start him off letting his hair down (almost literally considering its length) and then develop the evil over the next few episodes. I rather like that he wasn't out and out evil and going on a killing spree. His treatment of Anne Marie was much creeper and more disgusting than a merely violent Dean. But I hope they don't the ball on this (like they seem to have done with Dean's stories a few times).

the circular plotting of tying Sam to a chair at least 10 times a series? Not so much…

Hee indeed. My feeling that at least with this one hit had more meaning - in that Sam's in peril without Dean around to save him. For me it really bought home how alone Sam is. Without Cas around Sam really had no one else.

but hopefully the threads they're weaving this year will actually have a solution and won't just be dropped.

Oh please! God I hope they haven't started with an idea (like last season) and decide not to see it through. I'm still hopeful they'll be picking up some threads from last season.

I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops. It has potential. :)
9th-Oct-2014 01:51 pm (UTC)
Yes to all except that I actually like Sam's shorter hair which gives us a peek at the back of his neck :)
I don't know if it's just me but Dean seems to be a miserable demon... with all the karaoke singing and random sex he stills looks bored. And he's probably not very far from listless human Dean when he takes some time from the hunting life and Sam.
I didn't feel anything for the angle plot. Captured Sam made me want to scream...*is a shallow watcher. I'm looking forward to the reveal of Cole's history with Dean. Hope he won't get kiiled too soon.

10th-Oct-2014 05:04 am (UTC)
I'll always be happy to be able to peek at the back of Sam's neck! I don't mind that it's shorter - just the way it's been cut.

I don't know if it's just me but Dean seems to be a miserable demon.

Hmmm, I'm only just now starting to read some interpretations on Dean and I've seen this mentioned. Personally, I didn't get the feeling that Dean had any real emotion. Whereas in the past he was depressed when drinking, here it felt like he was drinking because he could and because he had no one telling him not to. It could also have been out of boredom. I think Jensen hit that fine line between showing as a "happy" Dean and a depressed Dean. He was just living without worries about consequences. He's doing stuff that makes him feel good - sex, song, drinks and violence - but not necessarily making him happy. I get the feeling those kinds of emotions are pretty absent from this version of Dean. My own interpretation though.

Hope he won't get kiiled too soon.

Yeah, that would be pretty annoying. Especially if he somehow bonds with Sam and than Wham! Dean comes in and kills him…

It should be interesting to see how it develops.
xx
9th-Oct-2014 02:27 pm (UTC)
My boyfriend was so bored that he got up off the couch and went to play video games halfway through.

Carver was mocking us with the dog line. Y'all need to understand that fact lol
10th-Oct-2014 05:08 am (UTC)
My husband hasn't watched an episode since Wendigo. He's bored through EVERY episode.

Carver was mocking us with the dog line.

Oh yeah, I got that. I think perhaps its why I liked it so much? If you're gonna screw up a storyline may as well call yourself out on it. Doesn't mend it, but at least it was acknowledged (though I have a feeling he's now thinking - you want to see Sam "save" Dean? Well, take THIS (and it's gonna be even worse than Sam not even trying to look….*sob*).

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