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11.17 reaction/review 
1st-Apr-2016 02:54 am (UTC)
I was totally unspoiled and sat down to watch it with dinner. I had to put my food aside, because it wasn't the sort of episode you can eat through!

I thought Sam's gunshot wound was perhaps the most affecting (to me, not to him – he kept right on hunting!) physical injury either of them have suffered during the show. All that blood, and it seemed so serious. He did a great job of acting the pain.
3rd-Apr-2016 01:17 am (UTC)
because it wasn't the sort of episode you can eat through!

I agree! I'm glad I have a glass of wine in my hand when I was watching it! :)

I thought Sam's gunshot wound was perhaps the most affecting

It really got me at first. I actually thought Sam was dead right then and the rest of the episode was going to be about Dean getting him back. I think the suffocating hit me harder because it was so unexpected and knowing Dean was just outside made me think he'd get in just in time. And he didn't! Argh - they played with our hearts!
1st-Apr-2016 04:57 am (UTC)
Oooh, you give a hell of a review! I'll make a note about this episode, for when I'm ready to watch SPN again.
3rd-Apr-2016 01:19 am (UTC)
Hee - thanks. It was one hell of an episode. This is definitely one for marking to watch when you're ready. :)
1st-Apr-2016 05:12 am (UTC)
These boys, man. Sam fighting to come back and save Dean. Dean's feeling of loss and need to have Sam back. ♥♥
3rd-Apr-2016 01:19 am (UTC)
Exactly! So brother epic!
1st-Apr-2016 09:53 am (UTC)
I watched the ep two times yesterday and I'm still not over it. I woke up this morning thinking about it. THIS IS SPN AS WE KNOW AND LOVE IT. The boys' story, the epic love story of Sam and Dean. This ep was brilliant. So much hurt and so much love. I loved everything about it. The story (thank you Berens and Dabb!), the directing, the guest characters. (I cried in that last scene between Michelle and Dean. She expressed exactly how Dean felt, and we saw all that deep hurt in his face. SO good.) And our boys. OUR BOYS in this spectacular SPN adaption of Romeo and Juliet were just fan-friggin-tastic!

It's no longer just "look out for Sam" but rather "How do I go on in this life? How do I keep going? How do I continue to fight? Who would I turn to? Who would I talk to? Laugh with? Cry with?" Somehow this episode made me really understand the complete need they have for each other. How the other keeps them sane, keeps them fighting, keeps them strong.

YES. That's not new to the show at all. But it was handled so well here, and we got to see their need for each other in a totally different, in a positive light. In the past, their co-dependency turned ugly sometimes. This time, we saw that it makes them a better person. Dean leaving dead Sam to help Michelle and Corbin was exactly what Sam would want him to do. He did it in his memory, so to speak. And I'm sure that he just came back from his overdose cos Billie told him that Sam was alive - it re-ignited his will to live. And Sam was so badass just cos he wanted to get back to Dean, and save him from Corbin the werewolf. (I totally accept your headcanon as to why he can handle so much pain. Oh, btw, there might have been a positive side to what Corbin did to him - Sam in shock with almost no pulse would prevent him from bleeding out, right?)
So yes. What we saw here were the boys being true to their core values, as you say, and helping people and themselves because of their love for each other. Their need for each other makes them stronger, it makes them better persons, it keeps them alive. I LOVED that. That's Supernatural. And I'm so, so, so happy SPN remembered that. Cos that's what our show is about!!!

(Oh and also, all this brilliant Hurt!Sam and Hurt!Dean and concerned Dean taking care of his Sammy so, so lovingly - be still my heart! <3 <3 <3)

Dear Supernatural. 11 seasons in, and you still remind us why we love you so much! <3
1st-Apr-2016 11:44 am (UTC)
Carry on my wayward son...

Welcome back Supernatural.
3rd-Apr-2016 01:20 am (UTC)
*thumbs up* Carry on season 11...
1st-Apr-2016 12:31 pm (UTC)
Yes yes yes, to everything!!!

So much h/c to squee about, but the heart of the ep and brotherly relationship just worked. And I think showing those backstory snippets was perfect, because juxtaposed with the blood, the 'deaths' and grief and loss, it showed was Dean was losing, what was at stake. The Empty is really working for me as a way to put fear back into a Winchesters death to the audience, and we've had Billie now tell both boys separately that she will reap, that there won't be a second chance. And I believe her. I feel like maybe they gave us this 'death' now, because we're not going to see one in the finale, and I'd be happy with that. If one of them does go the Empty, then the other one with have to get them out, and then we're back to square one. I think maybe they might team up with Billie and put Amara in the Empty...but hey, either way, I'm looking forward to finding out. Also Rob seems to be hanging around the set lately it would seem (as per tweets and facebook), so are we going to get Chuck back?????!!!!!!!

*takes a breath and calms down*

Such a strong episode all around!!! I felt all of it in a variety of rainbow feels \o/
1st-Apr-2016 05:10 pm (UTC) - 17
Oh god I loved this ep!

And it´s great to see I´m not the only one.

I have to say it was good to see bad ass Sam (Big W).

And Dean seeing Sam dead reminded me of AHBL
2nd-Apr-2016 09:28 am (UTC)
I finally got a chance to watch it, and it was glorious! This season is the best we've had in years. There have been a few slightly disappointing eps which is to be expected, but for the most part season 11 is back to the glory days of SPN. A show that has a season long story arc, but is primarily focused on the brothers Winchester.

This episode gave us so many wonderful Sam moments that were sorely lacking in the last couple of seasons. Hurt!Sam, BAMF!Sam, Determined!Sam; I'm going to roll around and squee about this for quite a while. It had a few moments where I had to handwave stuff, but nothing could take away from the fabulousness. I actually really liked the fact that it was pretty much all Dean's POV because it really worked. Jensen was great, Jared was wonderful, and the brotherly love was magnificent.

The only real fault I could pick in this episode, and it was rather a big one that didn't make much sense (but I'm willing to handwave it away) was that although Dean overdosed and Billie showed up as expected, Sam was gutshot, bleeding out, was choked into unconsciousness and dying, but no reaper showed. Billie wasn't even aware he was close to death. I thought it was weird, and it wasn't explained. How the hell did Sam survive? Did God himself intervene? I hope (but won't hold my breath) that the answer may play a part in a future episode.

I am also deeply glad that they actually showed what happens with a barbiturate overdose. On many TV shows and movies when someone takes an overdose they lapse into unconsciousness and look like they're sleeping when they die. That is SO far from the truth! It always bugs me and worries me that people on the brink will see it as a peaceful way to die; it's not. You seize, you froth at the mouth, and it's ugly. That they addressed that properly was a great piece of writing.

Like others have mentioned I do have to wonder if the show is better because Carver has taken a step back. The injection of a great new female writer and a new female director is also making things fresher. Last week we had an Asian character that was in no way stereotypical, and we had lesbian parents written as just another couple like the norm that it is. It's like Supernatural has a whole new lease on life this season, and considering it's eleven years into a show that by all rights should be feeling tired, it's such a breath of fresh air.

9th-Apr-2016 03:47 am (UTC)
Hey there! Sorry I didn't answer this earlier. Actually, it's nice to come back to read this and remember how awesome this episode was (and the one before it). SHow is SO good when it's just about the brother hunting stuff. I don't mind other characters, but I love it when they come in and out without trying to find a way to create a myth arc around them (*koff* like the most recent episode :D).

And I'd love to think the show is willing to take a new direction if Carver steps back. I would love to see Berens WITH Dabb take the helm (not just Dabb by himself - but it looks likes it might be just Dabb).

*clings tight* to this episode!
17th-Jul-2016 02:16 pm (UTC)
I just watched the last several S11 episodes, from 11.17, and this one is the only one that made me feel a lot of things in the whole season, or after S8.
I don't buy any of the darkness and God thing they try to sell. They introduced a new big arc but didn't work on the details, so everything about the new bad was superficial and flat.
But this is real. This thing between Sam and Dean, because it's built on the previous 10 seasons, especially the earlier ones, so it immediately connected to the brothers' history, and I was reminded why I started watching the show in the first place.
I love that Sam got back on his feet and fought his way out on his own. I also love that Dean didn't tell Sam he was too desperate to care if he acted too reckless to bring Sam back, even if he could die in the process.
This felt like them.
19th-Jul-2016 11:54 am (UTC)

Best episode of the season. And in fact, of the last 4 years I'd say. It had so much that was THEM. It's also frustrating because they give us this to show us they KNOW what they are made of and then give us a pile of *koff* crap that shows us they don't. Still, at least there was this one (and a couple of others this season) that made it worthwhile (now I just have to try and forget the myth act ;D)
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