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2nd-Feb-2018 08:38 pm
squeed, posted, I watched
*sheepishly waves*

I'm popping in because I feel like I need to write more than twitter will allow me (where I pretty much live now in terms of fandom).

I'm ALSO here because I loved that ep to the point of needing to post (wow, long time since that's happened). So...here's why I loved it soooo much:

Fair warning. I had approximately 3 glasses of wine before I watched this episode. I'm also in a rather happy place (for no particular reason other than it's Friday and the stars are probably aligning or something) so chances are I enjoyed this more than I might have done if those things hadn't happened. Maybe?

I also DIDN'T READ REACTIONS BEFORE I WATCHED IT. Wow, that can make a difference. The amount of "Dean wouldn't do that" or "Sam didn't get a story line" comments I read before I've seen the ep has been spoiling it for me. No one's fault, other than mine for checking reactions.


1. SAM AND FUCKING DEAN! The beginning of the episode transported me back to Tall Tales. It was light hearted and quirky, with an underlining menace. When horror (the bludgeoning of a poor bystander) is met with that "merry" musical underscore there's this lovely discomfort that Supernatural (when it's bloody got it!) does brilliantly. But it was Sam's "Leave him alone", followed but them wrestling (!!) that had me squeeing. I MISS THIS!

2. The Monsters of the Week (the sister witches) told a story of Sam and Dean. This is what the show used to do a lot. The "other" characters mirrored or reflected the Sam and Dean story. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID HERE. The sisters showed the darker side of Sam and Dean. They were sisters who were committed to saving someone they loved. Not much different to our brothers. Only, we know they'd never go THAT far - the sisters were malicious murderers. Our boys haven't gone that far, but this showed that they COULD (and it's a theme the show toys with occasionally).

And WOW! The sisters killed each other in the end. A moment where I literally put my hand to my mouth.

(Time out to say, there was a time where I thought the show might, one day, show Sam and Dean actually killing each other like that - not permanently, but, much like in Sex and Violence - they go at each other, and possibly kill each other. I even once thought it's how the show might end. Only one killing the other would be as a blessing, not through hate or a curse).

The mirroring of the MoTW and the brothers absolutely sold this episode to me.


3. We got Sam remembering Lucifer. I mean WHAT?!?! Since when have we had the writers give a moment to what Sam has suffered from Lucifer? That whole scene between Sam and Rowena just left me with my mouth agape. I want to think this is a new direction but I totally don't trust the Show anymore to carry this through. I'm just thankful we got even this.

I confess I'm not a fan of Rowena (because I can't pin her down dammit!), but I loved the twists and turns of this. I desperately want to believe her truth in this episode. She, much like Crowley, is a "baddie" who is actually a "goodie". The duplicity is actually quiet fascinating.

4. Argh! I even liked Cas! Did we see some of that solid bad-ass stuff from the past?! Can it be so?! PLEASE BE!!! It's be FOR-FUCKING-EVER since I've found this character remotely "sexy", but damn, I saw a glimmer in this episode. I want this from Cas much more than I want the humour.

5. WE EVEN HAD BEERS BETWEEN THE BOYS!! And YES YES, I know Sam probably needed to not walk off in the end but I DON'T CARE. We're actually getting some fucking EMOTION between these beautiful men. The tug and pull between these two is WHY I WATCH! I cried!

Mostly, I felt this episode was more intricate than it usually it. It had a delicate mix of what makes Supernatural, well, Supernatural. It wasn't perfect, but it had those necessary ingredients...

(Okay, okay. Sam not reaching the hex bag immediately is a bug (come on guys!) but Pffffff. I don't care. Sam remembered Lucifer!)

I laughed, I cried, I cringed, I sighed, I swooned, I hand-waved. And for me, THAT is what Supernatural is all about. DAMN YOU SHOW! Stop hooking me like this. You give me hope then sweep that from under my feet. But I'm happy to get this. So yay. :)

Steve Yockey was the writer of this ep. I think I have a new fav (sorry Berens, but I expected more from the Wayward Sisters I gotta say...).
2nd-Feb-2018 01:26 pm (UTC)
This episode surprised me in a good way. I'd like to hug Andrew Yockey - finally we get a writer who can weave a buch of characters and storylines without it becoming a dogs dinner AND with the brothers central and foremost. He even fitted in Sam's trauma memories! Finally!
The scene of them wrestling ON the Impala reminded me of Tall Tales, and it had all my favourite characters in the frame. Nice directing from Amanda Tapping throughout.
Even Lucifer and Cas didn't annoy me like usual, we got a sense of Lucifer's real old evil and Cas's bamf mode. I am still confused how a small stick got them out of their prison but I'll deal with that for the overall direction. S
2nd-Feb-2018 03:25 pm (UTC)
Oh the stick was just a symbol of Lucifer's powerlessness - so he couldn't even make a little twig move, his grace was so weak, until he got cross and then he wafted it into the wall. Then he just compounded the irony by sticking the same twig into snarky-demon-jailer's neck at the end, just to demonstrate even little sticks can be painful.
2nd-Feb-2018 07:10 pm (UTC)
Ah, right. So I spent all together too long trying to work it out instead of getting on and enjoying the next bit of the episode. Ha!
MY twitter went into hibernation years ago, so you're safe.
2nd-Feb-2018 07:12 pm (UTC)
But isn't it funny the things we become fixated on while watching!
2nd-Feb-2018 07:42 pm (UTC)
Yep it always seems to be little things with me - like in the very last scene, we got to see that the kitchen has a big vintage electric mixer, so I ened up wondering if Dean has ever used it just when it should have been maximum brother's moment.
3rd-Feb-2018 10:15 am (UTC)
*nods* to all. I've checked out this writer's past episodes and I've enjoyed them all. He's a keeper! (well, at the moment anyway...;D)

2nd-Feb-2018 03:23 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you didn't read my reaction post because it comes across as if I wasn't happy with this episode when actually - I was. I really enjoyed the parts that I enjoyed enormously then wrote mainly about the parts I thought were dodgy. Sigh. Why do I do that? LOL

Never mind. And please STEP AWAY FROM THE TWITTER! We need you here (positive and negative)
3rd-Feb-2018 10:18 am (UTC)
I really enjoyed the parts that I enjoyed enormously then wrote mainly about the parts I thought were dodgy.

Haha, well, I've done that plenty of times. I have since read you post and I can agree with the bits that didn't grab. I think I was so thrilled with what we DID get (after not getting it for so long - including the rather anvilious MoTW sisters :D) that I didn't mind the weaker bits. :)
3rd-Feb-2018 11:47 am (UTC)
To be honest, I didn't mind the non good bits either, it's just when I came to splurge my thoughts they ended up getting the lion's share. Which didn't reflect my enjoyment of the rest at all!
2nd-Feb-2018 03:24 pm (UTC)
I've said this a couple of times already, but I think Dabb and the old guard should just bugger off to WS and leave the new people to run the show, because they get it.
3rd-Feb-2018 10:20 am (UTC)
I could agree with that. I'm not sure WS will get picked up, but if it does, I think we will lose them. Well, if not Dabb, definitely Berens (which would be a shame because when he was writing solely for Supernatural, he did it very well).
3rd-Feb-2018 01:21 pm (UTC)
I don't think his heart's in WS. I think maybe he's the heir elect show-runner of WS since he's writing the pilot eps. If that's the case then he's obviously going to accept - it's a significant promotion - but I think in his heart he'd rather continue writing for Sam and Dean.
2nd-Feb-2018 04:40 pm (UTC)
So much agreement for all of this! I was happier than I have a right to be, this being winter here and the time of year when I’m usually feeling pretty down. But this — the scenes with Sam and Rowena in the car and the one with Sam and Dean at the end, in particular, although not ONLY those scenes — had me very engaged and excited, then crying into an entire box of tissues. So glad it inspired this wonderful review!
3rd-Feb-2018 10:22 am (UTC)
I can't believe that the show still manages to make we cry AND squee. It's why I'm still watching. :)
2nd-Feb-2018 05:03 pm (UTC)
Glad you popped into comment! My inner Samgirl was so happy with this episode and two weeks of Sam POV which wow! I like the new writers and the new blood. Not counting on this lasting the whole season because I know better than to get hopes up but I'll take what they give and squee! :)
4th-Feb-2018 12:55 pm (UTC)
I know! 2 weeks of Sam PoV! Too good to be true... (hoping for some more - especially, with the mention of his memories of Lucifer)
3rd-Feb-2018 12:50 am (UTC)
I also DIDN'T READ REACTIONS BEFORE I WATCHED IT. Wow, that can make a difference.

I'm finding this is CRUCIAL these days! I enjoy the show sooooo much more when I'm as unspoiled as I can be, and watch the show through, then tweet and peek at reactions.

The witch sisters were pretty meh for me, but everything else? THAT'S THE STUFF RIGHT THERE. Hit me what that sweet, sweet chemistry. That wrasslin' was a delightful display of meaty thighs and flailing, mile-long limbs and THANK YOU, AMANDA TAPPING. You directed for your audience. ;)

I love watching Rowena, but I get why you say she's tough to pin down. Above all, Rowena is out for Rowena. Period. She's fascinating to watch, and I have this closet wish for her to just once not take Sam for a ride. (I know, I know, she's a villain, Cris.) They're an interesting pair, those two, Sam and Rowena. They're always mutually scamming each other, and Sam's seriously just a stone's throw away from being a witch himself. Rowena is a mighty, mighty witch, but I would grin like a fiend if JUST ONCE, Sam would inadvertently out-magic her. (After the way this episode ended, tho? Not damned likely. I dunno what Rowena did but DANG, I think we're in trouble.)

AND. SAM. TALKING. ABOUT. LUCIFER. FINALLY. Admitting that he still has nightmares. That you never forget that shit. And I felt my black, shriveled heart grown nine sizes when Dean smiled at Sam and swore they'd find a way. Together. Plan or no plan. Atta boy, Freckles!

This was a good episode. It srsly was. <3
3rd-Feb-2018 02:33 am (UTC)
a) I love love love that you posted here!!
b) I loved everything you loved about this episode. I watch this show for Sam and Dean, and I so want to SEE and HEAR the brothers talking to each other, about real and deep and meaningful things. Like you said, so much of what draws me in is the push and pull between these two, and when have we had this much of that??? It's what makes this show special, and what keeps me watching. It almost felt like an early seasons episode just because of that (and the wrestling on the car of course...I could watch that for about 10 years...just saying...)
c) have I mentioned that I love that you posted here? Oh, right :)
3rd-Feb-2018 03:46 am (UTC)
Just a general 'Yay!' to see you around and glad you're happy!
3rd-Feb-2018 09:17 am (UTC)

Yup. THIS is the SPN of yore, and I loved it like whoa. Loved pretty much the same things as you -- brother-rasslin'! the parallels! actual canonical references to past episodes! Sam's memories! -- this ep was solid all around. I was absolutely bewitched. 😉

Please write here more? LJ 'tis a far, far better place with your posts in it.
3rd-Feb-2018 09:07 pm (UTC)
YAY, I'm happy you liked the ep!! It's great to have a reaction post from to pop up on my flist again. :D

Not reading ep reactions before an episode is--I've found--the key to happiness. :) If you read them, you're going to go into the ep with pre-conceived opinions and you're going to spend all 42 minutes waiting for the things to happen instead of actually following all the steps in the story. And it might happen that the reaction someone else had is completely different from yours. So, yeah, I personally try to avoid twitter before seeing the ep and I'm not reading any ep reactions on LJ before I type up my own.
5th-Feb-2018 02:06 pm (UTC)
Wasn't this just glorious?! I mean aside from the amazing scenes with Sam and Rowena and Lucifer bonding, and the beautiful scenes with Sam and Dean, I love love love it when show does comedy in one scene and then decidedly not comedy in another (the boys wrestling on the car was so funny and very reminiscent of Tall Tales!)

I want Rowena to take Lucifer down, and if I'm wishing, I want her to team up with Sam to do it (or for him to be there when she does) basically I want Sam and Rowena, because I love how you can never 100% trust her; she's out for herself, but wouldn't it be great if she spared Sam a thought while killing Lucifer?! I would love that.
6th-Feb-2018 07:11 pm (UTC)
I finally saw the episode and while I didn't think it was all that strong in a general sense, I did like a number of the performances in it and the focus on people as opposed to plot. Because although there was nothing wrong with the plot (which is often weak) it was definitely a character oriented episode.

I agree about Sam and particularly that final line to Dean that he's rooting for Rowena because he wants Lucifer to suffer (and he can relate to her feeling of helplessness).

I also agree about Cas who has had little to do and even less to do well in a long time.

I agree about the small callbacks to earlier seasons like the fight and the beers. What I liked best about that last bit though was the way it deviated from earlier seasons. When Dean suggested there was something embarrassing about being physically challenged by a woman (except he couldn't even call them that, just girls), Sam responded by noting it was par for the course. Not a ringing endorsement of women's equality but from this show? I'll take it.

However where I disagree is that it was Rowena that made this episode for me. That scene where she confronts the guys in their lair was a fabulous bit of acting. The writing itself was not anything special but it was a showcase of how a good actor can make a meal out of thin gruel. She was good throughout the episode but that one scene was masterful.

I also, btw, rather liked the clerk who helped Dean out. She and Sam had something in common this episode...
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